Ben Golliver: Story: After Westbrook tops Harden for MVP, Rockets GM Daryl Morey wonders whether it’s time to scrap NBA awards. Blake Griffin: honestly, we should do away with championships too. seems dumb to me. participation trophies for everybody. don’t @ me.
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In a phone interview Saturday, Rockets GM Daryl Morey raised questions about the MVP voting process, which involves a panel of 100 media members casting their votes at the end of the regular season. “I don’t know if this is a good process,” Morey told The Crossover. “The ones that are decided by players or executives or media, they all have their strengths and weaknesses. I honestly don’t think there’s a good process. You could argue for eliminating the awards altogether. I don’t really see a good way to do it that doesn’t have major issues. I like clean answers. If there’s not going to be a set criteria and there’s going to be issues with how it’s structured, for me it might be better to not have it.”
“Given that the criteria seems to be shifting away from winning, I would guess that [adding Paul] probably doesn’t help anyone’s chances on our team,” Morey acknowledged. “That said, I don’t think anybody really cares [going forward]. James definitely cared and I think we all cared [about the 2017 MVP]. But we’ve moved on since the award isn’t focused on winning any more. Let’s just win and not worry about it.”
Westbrook made the 2016-17 season a memorable one, putting his name in NBA record books as only the second player ever, and first since Oscar Robertson in 1962, to average a triple-double. Westbrook also broke Robertson’s record for most triple-doubles in a season with 42. “I remember growing up just being home, playing the video games and stuff with my pops, and my mom sitting there and my brother and just talking about maybe one day I could be the MVP. Obviously I was joking at the time,” Westbrook said. “But now to be standing here with this trophy next to me is a true blessing, man, and it’s an unbelievable feeling, something that I can never imagine.”
Enes Kanter: No! No! No! You Are The Real MVP…!
Enes Kanter: Oh no!! Plz Don’t do him like that 😂😂
Kevin Love: Congrats to @russwest44 for finishing his historic+unforgettable season with the #NBAMVP. Unbelievable what you’ve accomplished brother.
He had been the leading man for the duration of the NBA’s regular season, and for Russell Westbrook, there was no twist ending. At Monday’s NBA Awards show, the Thunder guard was named the league’s Most Valuable Player, an outcome that had been expected since the regular season ended in April.
Erik Horne: Westbrook invites Collison, Oladipo, Roberson, Kanter and Gibson on stage. “My guys. These are my brothers. This award is not for me.”
Madelyn Burke: Westbrook: “I never thought I would say this, but I’d like to thank the media” #yourewelcome
Erik Horne: Westbrook: “My brother texts me every single game at halftime. He doesn’t have to do that. He does that out of the kindness of his heart.”
Kevin Love: Congrats to @Russell Westbrook for finishing his historic+unforgettable season with the #NBAMVP. Unbelievable what you’ve accomplished brother.
Royce Young: Russell Westbrook wins the 2016-17 NBA MVP award.
Ira Winderman: Finalists for NBA individual 2016-17 awards (with one glaring omission):
AJ Neuharth-Keusch: LeBron hasn’t finished outside the top three in MVP voting since 2007-08, when he was fourth.
Howard Beck: MVP finalists, as announced on @NBAonTNT: Russell Westbrook James Harden Kawhi Leonard Winner announced at June 26 awards show.
Ira Winderman: No MVP for LeBron. The three finalists are Westbrook, Harden and Leonard. So LeBron can win Finals and not be at awards ceremony.
VICE Sports: You’ve mentioned Thomas as a fringe MVP candidate before, where do you think he ranks among point guards in today’s league, and where would he actually land on your MVP ballot? Isiah Thomas: He’s definitely on the MVP ballot, with what he’s done for that Boston franchise, and the type of season that he’s had. His season has been just as good as the Hardens and the Westbrooks of the world. And the LeBrons of the world. You know all those guys have had spectacular seasons and they’ve lifted their teams up to spectacular heights over the course of this NBA season.
Sirius XM NBA: Alvin Gentry says he expects Westbrook to win the MVP just because of the historic nature of the triple double mark.
Sirius XM NBA: Gentry adds that he wouldn’t be shocked if Harden won though. He wouldn’t even mind the two being co-MVPs
Our crowd-sourcing and canvassing has found 62 of the NBA’s 100 first place votes for 2017 MVP. There was no announced list, so we identified the votes and that a voter had a ballot using Twitter, interviews, podcasts, articles and TV broadcasts. And Westbrook will edge Harden. And right now we estimate the MVP race, after 62 first place votes, to be at: Russell Westbrook: 522 James Harden: 456 View our comprehensive spreadsheet of votes and our methodology here A first-place vote speaks the loudest by carrying a three point margin with it. First is worth 10, second 7, third 5, fourth 3 and fifth 1.
Brandon Jennings recently wrote an article for The Players’ Tribune stating you deserve to be this year’s MVP. It seems like the main guys in the debate are Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Kawhi Leonard and LeBron James. Despite your monster season, you haven’t been mentioned much. Does that frustrate or motivate you? John Wall: It just gives me more motivation to get to where I want to be. I want to be on top of that [MVP] list. That’s always going to be a goal for me individually. I ain’t worried about it, though. Those guys are each having a heck of a season too. All I can do is keep improving, keep winning, and eventually I’ll get there.
Sirius XM NBA: CJ McCollum says he has Russell Westbrook for MVP this season.
Stephen Curry: It’s just a matter of how you define MVP. That seems to kind of change from year to year just depending on your preference and what you enjoy watching on the court, what matters most to you in that kind of sense. I said [Harden] probably a month ago on what Houston was projected to do going into the season. But, obviously, I’m not voting on it. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds. What sucks about it is you have to wait so long now [NBA awards show is June 26] for the guys who are in that conversation.
You recently tweeted that Russell Westbrook deserves the MVP award. Is Russ’ campaign the best individual season you’ve ever seen? Blake Griffin: Yes. It almost blows my mind to think that anybody else could win MVP this year. That’s not taking anything away from James [Harden] and Kawhi [Leonard] and LeBron [James] because they’ve had excellent seasons too, but Russ’ production is crazy. And the things that set it apart are their record when he’s had triple-doubles, his PER and his PER in the clutch. As a player, those are all the things you look for – a player who’s going to make his team better, a player that wins games for you and a player who performs when you need him to. I honestly never thought I’d see someone average a triple-double. That’s why Russ’ run has been so mind-blowing. It takes an insane amount of energy to do that. You have to be involved in everything and have such a high motor.
Alex English: If I had an #MVP vote I would vote for @Isaiah_Thomas based on what he has done for his team to bring them to the top of the east.
Alex English: It’s all about #winning …my second choice would be Westbrook
Brandon Jennings: John With the Shades is my MVP. Personally, I think the résumé speaks for itself: lethal scorer AND lethal defender. Leader of the team that has probably most outplayed its expectations this season. And, on any given night — the best point guard in the world.
Brandon Jennings: Voters … you do what you want, though. Recognize or ignore the excellence. Pick my guy or don’t. But I’ll leave you with some highly valuable final advice — and it’s something that I’ve learned from almost a full decade of experience: Snubbing the kid from Raleigh? It’s a bad idea. Lotta people are going to be “learning” the name John Wall these playoffs. Doubt any of ’em forget it.
Matt Bonner: Now, as someone who played for Coach Pop for the last 10 years … let me put that into a little perspective. The Spurs’ system is predicated on one of Pop’s favorite sayings: “Good to great.” Translation: Always pass up a merely good shot, or a merely good play, for a great one. Basically — move the ball, make the extra pass, and be unselfish. And since there’s so little ball domination in that system … it makes it pretty impossible for any one player to put up a huge scoring average. Even Tim Duncan — arguably the greatest power forward to ever play the game — never had a season in which he averaged 25.7. And that’s really all you need to know. To me, 25.7 points per game in the Spurs system … that’s like 30 plus on almost any other team.
Matt Bonner: As any sandwich lover knows, a great sandwich lives or dies by its bread. And as any NBA fan knows, defense wins championships. And Kawhi is the best defender in the NBA. This year, to be honest, it’s not even really that close. Kawhi has it all. He’s got the physical attributes — long arms, big hands, strength and quickness. He’s got the mental attributes — an off-the-charts basketball IQ, a next-level understanding of angles, the best sense of anticipation I’ve ever seen. He’s got the work ethic — the drive to absolutely work his butt off, night in and night out, to lock down his man. And he’s got the clutch gene — he quite literally wins games in the fourth quarter on the defensive end.
Jonathan Feigen: Add Doc Rivers to list of coaches non -committal about the MVP race. “I was hoping no one would ask me that. Its your flavor.”
And: Oklahoma City has 46 total wins this season. That means, the vast majority of the time this season, Westbrook has had to get a triple-double for his team to win. Think about that. When Westbrook hasn’t gotten a triple-double, his team is 13-25. And you’re telling me his triple-doubles are arbitrary? No, they’re damn near a necessity for OKC this year.
One player, however, disagrees. James Harden, Westbrook’s chief competition for the league’s top individual award, said people are focusing too much on stats and not enough on wins. He gave his thoughts on the MVP following his own triple-double performance in Sunday’s victory over the Sacramento Kings: “I think [team record is] the most important thing. I thought winning is what this is about — period,” Harden said. “I’m not going to get in-depth with all that, but I thought winning was the most important thing. If you set your team up in a position to have a chance, at the ultimate goal, that’s the most important thing.”
Tobias Harris, Detroit Pistons: “To me, It would probably be Westbrook. You see all his triple doubles and where he has his team. (After pausing for several seconds, he added). Actually, I would do a co-MVP. Those are my choices. He and James Harden. I would vote for both of those. Both of them are playing extremely good basketball.’’ Jason Terry, Milwaukee Bucks: “I got James Harden. That’s my pick. I like the way he’s playing this year. If I had my choice, I’d give it to both of them (Harden and Westbrook), but nobody seems to like the co-MVP idea. But if you want to talk about making history, you give it to both of them. What they’ve done will never be done again. That’s what this league is based on: guys making history. How many times are you going to have two guys playing at the level they’re playing at, the seasons they’re having? There’s no way you can’t give it to the other guy. How do I just say James? Or how do I just say Russell? That would be an injustice. I’m splitting my vote and giving it to both of them.’’
Stan Van Gundy, Detroit Pistons coach: “Leonard, Harden, Westbrook, James … They’ve all been very good. But I’m going with Isaiah Thomas. I’m a little biased; I’m in the East (Conference). I’m not sure there’s a guy who has been more important to his team than Isaiah Thomas. He’s carried that team offensively and his team is in first place. He’d be my pick.’’ Wesley Matthews, Dallas Mavericks: “It’s tough. We’re seeing guys have historical seasons. But it’s hard to go against someone who is averaging a triple-double. What he (Westbrook) is doing is unbelievable. We’ve only see it one other time (Robertson in the 1961-62 season). That speaks for itself.’’
Steve Aschburner: Voting deadline for NBA awards: Friday. Announced in 10+ wks. Wonder how speculation/leaks affect top candidates’ & teams’ postseason play.
A lot of NBA players are now rooting for Russell Westbrook to win MVP. pic.twitter.com/Z7mPJmxUjQ
Alex Abrines: God among men!!!
Houston Rockets star guard James Harden said Sunday wins should matter when it comes to the Most Valuable Player award.
“I think that’s the most important thing, I thought winning is what this is about, period,” Harden said after recording his 21st triple-double of the season in the Rockets win over the Sacramento Kings on Sunday. “I’m not going to get in-depth with all that, but I thought winning was the most important thing. If you set your team up in a position to have a chance, at the ultimate goal, that’s the most important thing.”
Westbrook set a NBA single-season record for triple doubles in Sunday’s victory over the Denver Nuggets with his 42nd. “It’s a huge accomplishment,” Harden said of Westbrook, whom he’s close friends with. “He’s been playing extremely well all season long, it’s never been done before it’s a great individual accomplishment and it’s great.”
Jonathan Feigen: James Harden said he will text congratulations to Russell Westbrook for triple double No. 42. But he and teammates said MVP about wins, too.
Norris Cole: Wow!!!! M-V-P @Russell Westbrook @Oklahoma City Thunder #WhyNot #42
CJ McCollum: Thanks Russ … you the real MVP ✊🏾
Peter Edmiston: Pregame – David Fizdale officially endorses Russell Westbrook for league MVP. “He’s my favorite non-Grizzly player in the league.”
Fred Katz: Mike Malone says he thinks Westbrook should be MVP: “Early in the year, people said he couldn’t keep this up for 82 games, and he has”
Being a two-time MVP, if you had to pick, who would you give it to? Steve Nash: Traditionally, if you had to pick, Harden probably seems to be in the lead because his team’s contending and he’s elevated the play of his team. Having said that, Russell’s just been historic in terms of production and usage. It’s an interesting debate, but that’s all it is, a debate.
Jeff Zillgitt: NBA commish Adam Silver: We are witnessing a historic MVP race.
Around the 1:08:00 mark of the podcast, Lowe gave this critique of Westbrook, who is on the verge of breaking the record for most triple doubles in a season, as well as being the first in 55 years to average a triple double for the season. Lowe: “If you don’t think Russell Westbrook is stat padding his rebounds, you’re just blindfully ignorant or not watching. “He is stat padding his rebounds. So if you really care enough about 2 defensive rebounds to make that the deciding factor in who you vote for, more power to you. If you vote for Westbrook, you should not do it because of the triple double. Period.” Lowe then clarified that he does believe Westbrook is worthy of the MVP award, but for reasons other than the triple-double average. “I might vote for Russell Westbrook. I’m not going to tell you which way I’m leaning, but I might,” Lowe said. “It doesn’t have to matter to you that he is averaging a triple double. That’s not why you should vote for him.
Why does your teammate deserve to be MVP? Ariza on Harden: “He’s top five in scoring, No. 1 in assists, eight rebounds — almost averaging a triple-double. His team is winning. He gives his team unbelievable confidence to go out and perform every night. With all the things he’s doing, I don’t think the league has seen [this] for a very long time. His work ethic is unreal. Unmatched. The type of person he is, he’s all about basketball. And he’s been doing since I’ve been here, the past three seasons. He’s been very consistent about the way he carries this team.”
Ariza on Harden’s infamous defense: “Everybody has something that they have to work on. To me, I think that he’s improved in that area a lot. It’s not like people are out here having career nights every night against him. This is the NBA, so players are going to play well and have good nights, but it’s not like people are having career nights on him every night or even any of the time. And he’s improved in that area, if we’re talking statistically or defensive possessions.”
Adams on Westbrook: “For me, honestly, he’s a man of the people. He’s a people guy. So that’s why I think he should be MVP. Such a great dude. What he does for the community is outstanding. And just as a teammate, outside of basketball, he’s like a top lad. He’s the MVP of our hearts.”
Adams on Westbrook’s high turnovers and low shooting percentage: “It isn’t just him in terms of turnovers. You can’t just blame it on him. Honestly, there’s times where — it’s still a turnover if it hits me and I’m not ready for the pass or cannot catch the ball. That’s still his turnover, which is not actually the case. It’s not actually his fault that it happens. Probably just lack of focus or awareness on his end. But either way, mate, in terms of efficiency, he’s doing the best job that he can. No one else can do his job. No one else can come into the Thunder and do what he’s doing at the rate that he’s doing it at. In terms of efficiency, he’s doing a perfect job, I think.”
It appears Harden’s game and numbers have made a substantial impact, arguably as much as Westbrook has in his historic season. “The numbers are very close,” Rockets guard Eric Gordon said. “Westbrook might average two points more or two rebounds more. That’s not really much. Both having fantastic years. No way, I don’t believe, there’s no way [Harden] would straight up lose it.”
Alexis Morgan: Zach Randolph says Westbrook is the MVP in his book hands down.
Sirius XM NBA: John Henson has Russell Westbrook as his MVP. Doesn’t like Jet’s co-MVP idea.
Enes Kanter: We invited ⚡️🎅 over to talk about our favorite guy, the MVP, Russell Westbrook. #MVP #MVP #MVP #hist0ry #ThePeoplesChamp #KingofthePrairie
Fred Katz: Jason Terry on Russell Westbrook: “He is the MVP. There is no question” pic.twitter.com/n6CWY7iDcQ
“I think it’s comical that people were saying I’m having a down year,” Curry said. “To go black and white and say I’m not having as good a season as I was having last year based on just five points a game or shooting percentage or whatnot…there are other things that you try to do other than just the eye test to try and help your team win. This year has taught me that, for sure. The accolades and the attention and all that stuff, the hype is cool. But it’s really how you feel about your own game.
No one knows better than Curry that there is an individual gauge for how much a superstar wants to pour into the regular season. He also understands that that NBA MVP award is all wrapped up in storylines. “The narratives kind of take form in December of who’s winning, and it kind of takes a life of its own from there,” Curry said. “If you’re not in that conversation in December, it’s really hard to make up that ground with whatever accomplishments you’re making.
Local television and radio broadcasters employed by teams will no longer be a part of the NBA’s end-of-season award voting process, according to Indiana Pacers radio commentator Mark Boyle and Chicago Bulls radio commentator Chuck Swirsky.
The pool of media members with votes is also smaller this year, according to ESPN’s Brian Windhorst — while there used to be about 125 voters per award, this time the same 100 voters will determine every award.
Chuck Cooperstein: Just been told by the NBA that team broadcasters won’t have NBA award votes. Disappointed, but given new CBA complexities, I get it.
The NBA’s first awards show will be held June 26 at Basketball City at Pier 36 in Manhattan. The league will announce the winner of the MVP and its other major awards during the show, which will be televised live on TNT. The Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, Sixth Man Award, Most Improved Player and Coach of the Year will be announced during the NBA Awards Show. The league says Monday that it will announce new awards that will be unveiled during the telecast in the coming months.
Oklahoma City Thunder guard Russell Westbrook has a supporter in his effort to set an NBA record for most triple-doubles in a season: current record holder Oscar Robertson. Speaking at the Final Four in Phoenix on Friday, Robertson told ESPN’s Andy Katz that “I’m rooting for him” to break the record and that “I hope he does it.”
Robertson also endorsed Westbrook as deserving of MVP honors for his season’s accomplishments. “I think it’s Westbrook. That’s what I really think,” Robertson told Katz of his MVP pick. “Because years ago it was tough to win an MVP because it was based on winning championships — and [Bill] Russell with the Celtics. They dominated. But one year, Wilt [Chamberlain] averaged 50 points a game and 29 rebounds and me a triple-double, but Bill [Walton] won because his team advanced and we did not.”
Calvin Watkins: Blazers coach Terry Stotts on if James Harden the MVP: “He’s in the hunt.”
Evan Fournier: I wasn’t really sure who to pick for MVP, but after last night’s game… My vote goes to Russ man. Dude is a machine.
Russell Westbrook put on a show for the fans in Orlando on Wednesday night, and the fans showed their appreciation with LOUD “MVP!” chants, even as the Magic blew a lead and lost to the Thunder in overtime.
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As the Nuggets get to work in preparation for the NBA season, Kenneth Faried stubbornly refuses to accept a reserve role and defiantly insists if Denver can’t give him the minutes on the court he deserves, there are 29 other teams in the league where he can go play.
“I’ll just put it out there for everybody. I’m not a bench player. I’ve been saying that for the longest. I’m a starter,” Faried said Monday, when I asked him about his status with the Nuggets. “I love to hear the crowd (when introduced as), ‘Starting at power forward, No. 35, Kenneth Faried.’ Yes, that’s me. One hundred percent, that’s been my whole life. And I’m going to fight for a starting position. I’m just not going to lay down and let somebody take it. ”
“There are 29 other teams,” said Faried, whose contract with the Nuggets runs through 2019. “If this team doesn’t want, or respect me enough, to play me the minutes that I think I deserve to play, then I understand that. Hey, there’s 29 others. Maybe I’ll go somewhere else and do what I need to do there. But at the same token, I’m here in Denver, and I want to play Manimal basketball, no matter what, every time I step on that court.”