Derek Bodner: Adam Silver: “I’m really pleased with what they’re doing [in Philly]. Josh Harris, David Blitzer. It’s everything you could ask for from a league office standpoint.” As we know, that approval is critical.
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If LeBron James, who can become a free agent after this season, decides to leave the Cavaliers, he could – and should – consider the 76ers, and executives around the league believe Sixers president of basketball operations Bryan Colangelo will attempt to sign James. The Sixers are an intriguing possibility, and if James’ goal remains competing for championships and Cleveland is no longer the place, the Sixers can make a compelling case.
Let’s start with rudimentary salary cap issues. The Sixers are one of a few teams who have significant salary cap space to use in the summer of 2018. They would need to make a few moves to get close to a $34 million max salary for James in year one, but it can be done. Let’s also point out that James on media day in September said nothing has happened that has changed his stance about finishing his career with the Cavaliers. He also said, “Anytime I’m able to be a free agent or my contract is ending, I’ll approach that when the summer comes.”
The 76ers are building a state-of-the-art, multi-purpose sports and youth training complex in Wilmington. Harris Blitzer Sports & Entertainment, which oversees the Sixers organization, and The Buccini/Pollin Group announced Wednesday morning their partnership to create 76ers Fieldhouse on 8.9 acres of land off U.S. Route 13 and Garasches Lane. BPG is a private real estate acquisition, development and management company based in Wilmington.
The fieldhouse is scheduled to open in the fourth quarter of 2018. The 140,000-square-foot complex will serve as home for the Sixers’ NBA G League affiliate, the Delaware 87ers, beginning next season. The 87ers court will be configured to host around 2,500 fans.
So far, Colangelo has rejected discussions on a contract buyout that would allow Okafor to become a free agent. Colangelo is holding out the possibility that Okafor’s $5 million salary could be packaged as part of a bigger deal before the Feb. 9 trade deadline, even if he can’t find a singular move involving Okafor, league sources said. That’s where the disconnect comes between Colangelo and Okafor’s camp, because waiting on that improbability could cause this to become a lost season for Okafor.
Brian Seltzer: Bryan Colangelo calls Robert Covington “prime example of what hard work, dedication and commitment can lead to,” citing growth as two-way wing player. Also praises his “character and professionalism.” “This extension is both well-deserved, and a really great story.”
Sam Hinkie: I love it when a plan comes together.
The reserve center told team president of basketball operations Bryan Colangelo on Tuesday that he wanted to be bought out of his contract. That came after the Sixers declined to pick up Okafor’s contract for the 2018-19 season. The Sixers, however, appear unwilling to let the 21-year-old center, who has played only one game this season, just walk out the door. “Bryan didn’t think [a buyout] would be a great idea,” Okafor said, “because he said he would be giving me away to a team for free. But that’s pretty much where we stand right now.”
Okafor said Colangelo is the only front-office person he spoke to about a buyout. “That’s where we stand today because you waited so long to trade me,” Okafor said. “There’s nothing else to do. I’m not playing here. At the end of this season, I’m an unrestricted free agent. “So I want to get on the court and play after this.”
“I tried to do everything the right way,” Okafor said. “I tried to be professional; I will continue to be professional. But at some point, I have to defend myself, and this is my career. I’m not sure if [Colangelo] cares about that. I think that’s evident at this point.” Okafor said he understands that this a business and that Colangelo has to do what’s best for the organization. “But at some point, as people, on a personal level, you would hope, let’s get Jah out of here,” Okafor said. “Let him go play somewhere because I’m 21. I’m healthy. I’m trying to get on the right path of my career.”
Joel Embiid: Trust The Process
Daryl Morey: @SamHinkie tanking is solved.
Jon Johnson: “Cautiosuly optimistic” a contract with Embiid will be done. “I don’t believe there is any accuracy to that at all”. Colangelo on @howardeskin report Embiid is holding out for contract.
Brian Seltzer: Colangelo confirms that at present, Ben Simmons is “playing 5-on-5 basketball, and dominating the gym.” Tom Moore: B Colangelo: ‘I don’t foresee any restrictions with Ben.’
Tom Moore: B Colangelo: ‘It’s too early to tell’ when Joel Embiid will scrimmage. ‘We are excited where he is with his condition.’
In addition to being so talented, Embiid is extremely popular with the fans because of his outgoing personality and social media engagement, as well as his rare basketball skill set for a man of his size. “He’s got the public on his side,” said a league source. “It’s a public relations nightmare (for the Sixers).” While the Sixers have declined to comment on an Embiid extension since the free agency period began July 1, managing owner Josh Harris told me June 23 that the organization is “focused on it.”
Magic Johnson recently became the president of basketball operations for the Los Angeles Lakers. Do you see Magic succeeding in his new role and would you do something like that in the future? Julius Erving: “I think Magic is going to succeed because he’s succeeded at every level and has taken on every challenge that’s put in front of him and channel it. “It’s not the role for me. It’s just not. I had my time in basketball and now I kind of like having the freedom that I have…that role is one that locks you in.”
Shams Charania: Sources: Philadelphia plans to hire former NBA All-Star Elton Brand as GM of G League team. Brand has served as a development consultant.
Tom Moore: The #Sixers have hired Patrick Rees as their senior director of public relations. Had been #Wizards director of bball communications.
The boxes below control the feed for the automatic blinds in Colangelo’s office. They’re installed right above the ceiling. As you can see, SOS wrote “Trust the Process” on the inside of one panel and “Hinkie died for this…” on the the other.
“I want Joel Embiid to know what I did,” he told me. “But I’m also pitted between Joel Embiid and my job. Not like it’s illegal what I did. You can’t even see it. But … I think I’m going to have to remain anonymous.” OK. What should we call you? “I’ll leave that to you,” he initially replied, then immediately came up with an answer: “Son of Sam.”
Rumors about Colangelo and others altering the building blueprint were being whispered all over town during construction. “[Bryan] came in and changed all kinds of stuff,” a team source told me. “I’d guess at least seven figures’ worth of changes. But everyone did. There were so many changes I would hear something crazy got changed and be like, ‘Yeah, sure, whatever.’”
He wants the Sixers to understand he wasn’t trying to be mean-spirited, and he’s hopeful that enough time has passed that Harris and Blitzer and Colangelo and the rest of the Sixers brass will chuckle. Maybe. But a team insider wasn’t so sure. That person said the higher-ups remain so sensitive about Hinkie and the Process that “it would not surprise me if, in a month’s time, we’re tearing out light fixtures.”
Signing Joel Embiid to a contract extension is one of the 76ers’ offseason priorities, according to managing owner Josh Harris.
Following Friday’s news conference to introduce the Sixers’ four picks in Thursday night’s NBA Draft, Harris said the organization is “focused on it.” “Look, I’d just say we want Joel to be on the team for a long time,” Harris said. “We want us all to grow old together. That’s the way I would put it.”
Since he is heading into his fourth pro season, the Sixers can extend Embiid’s rookie contract from July 1 until the day before the season opener in mid- to late October. The extension would begin with the 2018-19 campaign for a maximum of roughly $130 million for five years or $100 million over four years.
The Boston Celtics announced today that they have acquired the third overall selection of the 2017 NBA Draft and the favorably-protected rights to a future first round pick from the Philadelphia 76ers in exchange for the first overall pick in this year’s draft.
Keith Pompey: #Sixers executive Brandon Williams sees Jordan Bell as a Dennis-Rodman-type player. pic.twitter.com/lYuqmOmzUj
They would be in position to add a talented player capable of providing immediate and long-term help, should the Sixers keep the pick. “I think that should we move or if there’s a transaction that comes out that gives us a chance to perhaps increase what impact No. 3 can have in terms of its return, I think we will look at it,” Bryan Colangelo, the team’s president of basketball operation, said Monday. “There’s some discussions that have been fairly interesting.”
Signing capable free agents is the most direct route to more wins, and Colangelo said “ownership is committed to winning.” He reaffirmed his belief in Brett Brown and his son, and stated that the Sixers need to take things one step at a time right now — basically saying they need to “trust the process” without uttering the phrase. However, one sentence showed just how important of a time this is for the Sixers — free-agent signings, draft selections and trade possibilities included: “We’ve got a good hand, and now it’s important to play out the hand in the right way,” he said.
The 76ers chose not to renew the contract of Lance Pearson, their director of applied analytics. Pearson, who worked for the team the past four seasons, received the news at the conclusion of the season. “I want to thank the Philadelphia 76ers … players, coaches, staff, fans for one of the best times and learning experiences of my life,” Pearson tweeted. “I’ll always treasure the memories, friends and knowledge I’ve gained here and wish everyone the best.”
Jerry Colangelo believes the 76ers are in better hands with the current management, than they were with Sam Hinkie. The 77-year-old Sixers chairman and father of the team’s general manager Bryan Colangelo joined the 94WIP Carlin & Reese Show on Friday, and spoke candidly about former polarizing GM and orchestrator of “The Process” Sam Hinkie.
Colangelo’s thoughts on the Sixers’ former general manager? “I respect the fact that he thought so much out of the box, which he really did, in terms of being the analytical guy that he is,” Colangelo said. “And of course, people can look back on decisions that were made — good or bad — and most everyone’s track record is full of both and [they] come to their own conclusions.
“I respect the fact that he thought so much out of the box, which he really did, in terms of being the analytical guy that he is,” Colangelo said. “And of course, people can look back on decisions that were made — good or bad — and most everyone’s track record is full of both and [they] come to their own conclusions. “Since the change in management, there’s much more of a defined game plan in terms of going forward, and that’s very positive, in my opinion, for the franchise. Sam left some good stuff in place, no question about that. Along the line there was a lot of pain in terms of incredible losing and that could only be sustained for a period of time. And I think in Philly’s case, I think he probably ran out of time.”
Tom Moore: #Sixers Bryan Colangelo: ‘We’ve grown our analytics department 3-fold.’
Tom Moore: Told #Sixers ‘considering many options’ for available 15th roster spot. Would think PF most likely with Saric the only healthy natural 4
Joel Embiid said he wasn’t happy with how the 76ers handled his being sidelined with a bone bruise in his left knee. The center pointed out that the Sixers informed the media he was a day-to-day injury.
“I was told that I was going to kind of miss two or three weeks,” Embiid said. “So I wasn’t happy with the way it was handled. I thought keeping my name out there was going to literally have people think about me all the time instead of saying when I was going to come back.”
Keith Pompey: Joel Embiid wasn’t happy with Sixers’ lack of transparency philly.com/philly/blogs/s… via @phillysport
Philadelphia 76ers President of Basketball Operations Bryan Colangelo announced today that the team has made several key additions to the analytics and strategy department, naming Andy Miller, Alex D’Amour and Alex Franks as Senior Researchers, and Grant Fiddyment and Michael Lai as Data Scientists. “We are very excited to add this level of intelligence, experience and innovation to our already deep analytics and strategy group,” Colangelo said. “Vice President Alex Rucker and Director Sergi Oliva did a great job identifying and securing the highest level candidates from a worldwide pool of talent as we address expansion plans of our current systems, processes and capabilities.”
Steve Kyler: The 76ers not interested in more youth, they want guys that can help turn the youth they have into real impact stars twitter.com/theoudplayer/s…
The Sixers have reached an agreement to add Elton Brand to their basketball operations department, the team announced today in a press release. According to the announcement, Brand will serve as a player development consultant for the franchise, and will be “heavily involved in assisting the players in every facet of their on- and off-court development.”
John Gonzalez: Some information about how Sixers anthem decision happened last night and who addressed the players today… 1.) Told by league sources Jason Wiley (@jwiley555), VP of Content & Integrated Marketing for Sixers, helped book @sevyn. 2.) Wiley previously worked for Bad Boy & has music industry contacts. 3.) Told Wiley, in concert with other team execs, decided to not have her perform. Team was “worried” that shirt wasn’t only part of protest. 4.) Told Wiley was the VP who addressed the Sixers players today on behalf of organization.
The Sixers did approach Brand about accepting a front-office position. He said Thursday that he hasn’t ruled it out.
Keith Pompey: Brand announces his retirement. He’s not sure of his step. He will talk to the Sixers about future opportunities. But he’s not sure.
Keith Pompey: Elton Brand hasn’t played in any preseason games. I wouldn’t be shocked if he moved up to the #Sixers front office. He’ll still get $1M. If that happens, Brand would free up a roster spot for another player. However, his leadership at the end of the bench will be missed…
Philadelphia 76ers President of Basketball Operations Bryan Colangelo announced today that the team has made several updates to the basketball operations department, including the promotion of Ned Cohen to Vice President of Basketball Operations and Chief of Staff, as well as a re-structured analytics department, which will be led by Vice President of Analytics and Strategy Alex Rucker, and supported by Director of Applied Analytics Dr. Lance Pearson and Sergi Oliva as Director of Basketball Analytics and Innovation.
Additionally, the Sixers promoted Vince Rozman to Senior Director of Basketball Operations. The team also named Scott Epsley as Director of Physiotherapy and Clinical Diagnostics, Juan Jackson as Director of Team Security, Shea Dawson as Manager of Team Services and Kevin Owens as Basketball Operations Coordinator.
UFC public relations executive Dave Sholler has accepted a job with the 76ers. The Atlantic City native will oversee all communications on both the basketball and business sides.
Tom Moore: #Sixers Noel: ‘Someone needs to be moved around. It’s just a tough situation. I have no say, no power.’
On a podcast with Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports’ The Vertical, Bryan Colangelo finally confirmed what everyone had (correctly) assumed: Colangelo would have had final say. In fact, owernship’s initial reluctance to give Colangelo final say led to him turning down their first offer. “The first time that I met with David Blitzer and Josh Harris I basically told them I’m not the guy for this job,” Colangelo told Wojnarowski. “But a good month and a half passed and they called me back and said ‘We want to revisit, would you be interested?’ This time I said sure, I’ll listen, but I’m not sure things have changed. But their approach changed, and obviously that approach was something where I wouldn’t be coming in to work underneath Sam [Hinkie]. I was going to be coming in to be the lead in terms of basketball operations.”
SLAM: From your perspective, how did it feel when Sam Hinkie stepped down as general manager? Robert Covington: It was a little sad. Sam was the one that gave me an opportunity, but we understood why. When he wrote that letter, it really meant a lot because it obviously lets you know the impact, you know, he doing something right. It was something different, but the team is very young, very athletic, but we have a great group of guys as far as a whole unit. The things that he has put into place, it put us in the position we’re at now. You got through rough times, but a lot of it can change over time.
Joel Embiid on Sam Hinkie: THE GOAT #HeDiedForOurSins #TrustTheProcess
Former 76ers head coach Jim O’Brien will be hired as the team’s assistant head coach, a source said Friday. O’Brien will replace former associate head coach Mike D’Antoni. D’Antoni was named Houston Rockets head coach last month.
“By all indications, they’re going to be aggressive, and I think once you get past that first tier of free agents, you are going to have a perfect storm in Philadelphia that is going to make players want to go there,” another agent told SN. “Brett Brown is a good coach. They’ve got money. They’ve got playing time available. I mean, it couldn’t be a more different situation than what we’re used to.”
Some sources claim Philly’s ownership group had grown impatient with Hinkie’s lack of a clear timetable to be competitive and had been worn down by constant criticism. Others suggest Silver pressured the 76ers into making a change.
The league has never hidden its distaste for tanking, and sources around the NBA say Silver grew more irritated after the Sixers lost their first 18 games last fall and Okafor was involved in multiple off-court incidents. Ultimately, those sources say, it is likely that a combination of all those factors led to Jerry Colangelo’s hiring.
“We’re in a competitive business,” says one Western Conference exec. “I think a lot of people feared what Sam was doing: ‘What if it works? It will become the new model.'” Adds the former GM, “There was a perception that Sam thought he was smarter than everyone else.”
“There has to be a level of understanding, a level of trust between teams,” one former GM says. “I think Sam had a hard time opening up in that process. If you are trying to win the deal each time, that’s fine, as long as the other side gets a win too. But if you are trying to kill them, then it makes it harder to work with them in the future.” Adds one Western Conference executive: “Sam’s a hard-nosed negotiator, which is intimidating to some people. There’s a bit of ‘what’s behind the curtain?’ with Sam. People don’t know what his factors are. It’s not as straightforward as ‘I like that guy.'”
But if Hinkie knew he was on his way out in March, he had an odd way of showing it. His words from those interviews now read as blindly prophetic, like those of a man pondering his own death without knowing that it was imminent. “So many of my friends will tell me, ‘Don’t do that. Don’t try that. It’s going to end poorly. They’ll run you out,'” Hinkie would later say. “And that’s the reason to do it, because fear has been the motivating factor for way too many people for way too long. There’s a huge agency problem in the whole business, particularly in my role: Keep the job.”
If Hinkie thought he could get by without addressing criticisms about him, it’s the same way, sources confirm, that he never anticipated his resignation letter becoming public. (Rumors continue to swirl over which member of a small group of recipients leaked the document.) The note was one of dozens he penned in his time with Philadelphia. The language was standard for an investor letter and typical of communication on Wall Street, the home turf of several Sixers owners, but also deeply idiosyncratic.
But after a three-year layoff after being forced out of Toronto and being passed over for other opportunities, most recently for the Brooklyn Nets general manager’s job in February, sources said, Colangelo is determined to show the NBA that he’s still a major player in this league.
While he is perhaps one of the NBA’s best-dressed executives, others say he is far from a daddy’s boy. The Colangelos have distinct personalities. Jerry is more approachable and open than his son. Bryan is guarded, and appears to be a little standoffish.
“Once people get to know me,” Bryan Colangelo said, “I have young people say to me all the time, ‘I never knew you were like that. I only heard things.’ “ They both possess a take-charge attitude and an “I don’t give a dang what they say” approach when it comes to making major decisions.
Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey defended his protégé, former 76ers general manager Sam Hinkie, during a recent appearance on Yahoo Sports’ “The Vertical” podcast hosted by Adrian Wojnarowski. Wojnarowski asked Morey for his perspective on Hinkie’s departure from the 76ers after team brass (and NBA officials) decided they had waited long enough for Hinkie to fix the team. Specifically, Wojnarowski asked Morey if he received criticism because Hinkie had become a pretty polarizing figure in the league and whether Morey was judged because of Hinkie’s struggles.
Morey on Hinkie: I wanted to take hits for him. The reality is, when he took over Philly, he took the approach that was best for the franchise at that time in his judgment, which was that the best way for them to get to be a title contender, given the roster where they were at, was to take a pretty strong dip into the top five of the draft. That has more of a history of success in terms of building a championship contender.
Eric Goldwein: Jerry Colangelo on his/Bryan’s hiring process. Basically says Bryan was plan from the start: Jerry Colangelo: “Well you know through the commissioner a call was set up between Josh Harris and myself and we had a very nice talk about their circumstances and I was asked to — they wanted to find out if I was available and willing to be of some help. And, um, although I kind of directed the inquiry more to Bryan than to me, because of his availability and his experience, etc. and my plate being as full as it was. It turned out that I came in as a consultant and had a little more responsibility than I thought I had. And nice the decision was made to bring in an experienced basketball person — and Bryan was a candidate — it was important to step aside and let that process take its course.” http://es.pn/1TZIlSr
Tom Moore: #Sixers Brett Brown says organization has ‘a lot of firepower’ in front office. #NBA
Brian Seltzer: Brown said one of parts of Philadelphia he’s most impressed with is how knowledgable town is about hoops. Thinks town will embrace #1 pick.
The unpopular, non-trending, nuanced answer — the ice-cold take — is as follows: Both. “He did as good a teardown as you could possibly fathom,” an executive in the league told CBS Sports on Wednesday. “But it’s not that hard to tear down. To trade players for future picks and get a bunch of undrafted free agents and hope one sticks; that’s not that hard to do. So it’s OK to say [Hinkie] did a good job tearing down, but Bryan [Colangelo] is in a better position to build it up.”
Philadelphia 76ers President of Basketball Operations Bryan Colangelo officially announced today that the team has hired Marc Eversley as Vice President of Player Personnel and Ned Cohen as Associate Vice President and Chief of Staff, while Brandon Williams has been promoted to Vice President of Basketball Administration. “I am very excited about the opportunity to bolster our front office through the addition of two eminently respected and seasoned professionals,” said Colangelo. “Marc’s distinguished eye for talent along with his ability to relate to and connect with players has set him apart in such an important sector of the industry. Ned’s overall knowledge of the league, his expertise on a wide range of topics, and his ability to manage high-level issues will be very beneficial to our management team.”
Jake Fischer: Texted a few execs around the league re Ned Cohen. Cohen had his hands all over the NBA Draft combine and advising undergraduate entries.
Jeff Zillgitt: Sixers have finalized a deal to bring Wizards VP Marc Eversley into front office and he will head player personnel efforts, I’ve been told.
It’s something which Joshua Harris tried to fight against early last week, to little success, attempting to convince fans that Colangelo the Elder wasn’t involved in getting Colangelo the Younger a job within the organization he was chairman of, optics that Bryan Colangelo admitted on Breakfast on Broad almost caused him to turn down the opportunity. “I actually even said ‘This probably isn’t right for me’ initially,” Colangelo told Breakfast on Broad. “I almost removed myself from the process, to be honest. Once [Jerry] was out of the picture, then we moved forward on a clean basis and it felt good, I convinced myself that this was the right position because I was so excited about what this opportunity looked like.”
“Nothing really changed,” said Colangelo, who lives in Phoenix. “My role is still the same that I was originally asked to come in and do.” The Hall of Famer and four-time executive of the year was hired on Dec. 7 to be an adviser and mentor to the Sixers. The title of chairman was something the team added, so he went along with it. But in translation, [his role after Bryan’s hire] sounded differently, especially the stepping down kind of a thing,” Colangelo said. “I haven’t stepped down. I’m still walking on the same level, doing the same thing.”
“But in translation, [his role after Bryan’s hire] sounded differently, especially the stepping down kind of a thing,” Colangelo said. “I haven’t stepped down. I’m still walking on the same level, doing the same hing.” The only difference is that his son is the one calling the shots, having the last word. Bryan Colangelo flew to Philadelphia from Toronto on Wednesday. He is scheduled to travel attend the NBA Board of Governors meeting in New York on Thursday.
The first source said Jerry Colangelo, who stepped down as chairman the day Bryan was hired and is now a special adviser to managing owner Josh Harris, didn’t like it when he found out Brown’s two-year extension was a done deal upon joining the franchise Dec. 7. The extension was announced at a new conference with former GM Sam Hinkie and Brown four days later.
Yes, Colangelo said he’s looking forward to meeting with Brown and discussing a number of basketball topics with the Sixers’ three-year coach. But a league source noted Colangelo essentially cleaned house when he took over as Raptors general manager in 2006. Sam Mitchell stayed as coach until Colangelo fired him 17 games into the 2008-09 season. Mitchell was named NBA Coach of the Year and Colangelo earned NBA Executive of the Year honors in 2006-07. “I don’t think anybody survives, (except) maybe some low-level analytics people,” the source said. “I’m not sure the scouts make it.”
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The Santa Cruz Warriors are signing former first-round pick Terrence Jones, a person with knowledge of the situation told USA TODAY Sports. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the deal to add the 25-year-old forward won’t be official later this week.
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It could be said George Hill needed a night like Tuesday, where his impact was felt from start to finish. Hill, however, wouldn’t say that. “It’s not really about me,” Hill said. “It’s about the team and trying to find the right way and trying to figure everything out. It’s good to come out and get a good team win before we go on this four-game road trip.”
Hill has been trying to adjust to playing less, finding his game with new teammates while also serving as a mentor to rookie point guards De’Aaron Fox and Frank Mason III. Hill said at this point he’s not searching for his role on the team. “No, if it’s there, it’s there,” Hill said. “I’m just trying to help the young fellas learn, mentor them and figure that out as we go.”
Viewed as a throw-in for the Trevor Booker deal that brought back Jahlil Okafor and a 2019 second-round pick, Stauskas is a former lottery pick who has clearly had some confidence and a lot of playing time in the past. “He got shell-shocked in Sacramento by [DeMarcus] Cousins. His confidence was shot,” an Eastern Conference scout told The Post. “He had a bad experience there and lost confidence. Cousins is a bad teammate, and it affected him poorly. He comes to Philadelphia, and showed flashes but never consistency, never enough. “He can shoot, but he’s not a great shooter. … This is his third team now. He had an opportunity in Philadelphia; I don’t know. He’s not very good defensively. You’ve got to do something well, and I can’t answer that. Can he shoot? He’s got a funky-looking shot, and just never really got it going.”