Tim Grover Rumors
Famed trainer Tim Grover (he’s worked with Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and Dwyane Wade) has now given his take on the matter, providing a step-by-step process of George’s recovery. Tim S. Grover: Probable Paul George timetable: 3-4 months: cast. Walk: 6 months. Run: 9 months. Plyo: 11 months. Basketball activities: 12 months. Mental return? No timetable.
All along, Procopio kept working at summer camps, especially one at trainer Tim Grover’s Chicago gym. In ’06, Celtics forward Paul Pierce was walking in to lift weights with Grover as Procopio was walking out, and Pierce and Procopio agreed to meet later for an on-court workout. Grover witnessed that session and approached Procopio. “That was great work,” Grover told him. “I’ve never seen a guy who looks like you work out a guy like that.” “Take a ticket and stand in line, because you’re not the first guy or the last guy to tell me that,” Procopio responded with a smile. “Would you like to work for me?” Grover offered.
Exum will soon be making his pilgrimage to L.A. to begin prepping for the draft with renowned trainer Tim Grover. Grover rose to fame training Michael Jordan and currently has both Dwyane Wade and Kobe Bryant as clients. If Exum is going to get stronger and learn the NBA game, it doesn’t get much better than Grover.
The explosion wasn’t back – and maybe never will be – but his ability to operate with and without the ball, his ability to make shots, big shots, too, had slowly, surely started to return. As one NBA coach who has scouted Bryant heavily in his comeback said, “He still had a long ways to go.” Bryant knows that, too, and yet maybe there’s a way that returning to rest and rehab can be a benefit for the last leg of his career. For those who believed Bryant had come back too soon from the Achilles tear, these several weeks promise to give the tendon more time to recuperate, more time to strengthen again. “This could be his best chance to come back stronger,” his longtime trainer Tim Grover said on Thursday.
Dwyane Wade is starting an important offseason, one in which he must balance recovery from more knee issues and Pat Riley’s challenge to drop weight and develop his game. To do so, he has rehired famed trainer Tim Grover and will work with him for six weeks leading up to the Miami Heat’s training camp for the 2013-14 season. Wade has vowed that he will return a different player than he was at the end of last season, when he was limited by bone bruises and tendinitis in his knees. The 31-year-old guard averaged 21.2 points per game during the regular season, but just 15.9 PPG in the playoffs. So to return to form, Wade has reached back into his past and out to Grover, whom he has worked with many times before but not for the past few summers. “I don’t train my clients to be good as new, I want them to be better than ever,” Grover said about working with Wade again. “That’s the goal for Dwyane.”
Chicago Bulls guard Derrick Rose needs to get on the court and play, said the former trainer of Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. “It’s a mental state for some people,” Tim Grover, the trainer who began working with Jordan in 1989 and Bryant in 2007, said in an interview. “Once he takes that hit and stands back up and sees he’s OK, he’ll be just as good if not better than before.”
The story Griffin heard turns out to be true. And it goes something like this: Bryant told his longtime trainer, Tim Grover, he wanted to add in bike training to his summer conditioning. Grover researched a trail in Las Vegas, rented three bikes — one for Bryant, one for himself, and one for Bryant’s security guard — and on the night before the first day of practice, they each put on headlamps and headed out to the trail and rode. “We finished up around 2 a.m.” Grover said. “And we were back in the gym working out by 7:30 in the morning.”
Tim Grover: “Everyone is saying ‘can Kobe Bryant come back close to where he once was?’ My job is to get him better than he once was. With all the technology that is available to us and all the different resources and the training available for this surgery now, there is no doubt in my mind that can happen.”
Kamenetzky Brothers: The book mentions how Wade consciously held back his game in 2012 to get the most of LeBron James and for the sake of the bigger picture. He also recently told USA Today he knows he’s still a top 5 player and could put up bigger numbers if he cared. How rare is such a concession for a Cleaner? Tim Grover: You don’t have to be the top player on a team to be the Cleaner of the team. You just have to be able to produce in all situations. Dwyane, in order to get that second championship and get the most out of (James), knew he had to pull back a bit and let LeBron take this pressure on and take this team where he wasn’t able to in the Cleveland situation. Dwyane knew if he was able to do this, the end result is going to be obtainable, which is a championship. And that’s all that matters to a cleaner. It is the end result.
Kamenetzky Brothers: How much has Kobe grown as a leader in this regard? He’s gotten better about positive reinforcement with Pau, but he’ll also use phrases like “white swan,” “Bambi legs,” or “big boy pants.” Tim Grover: He’s gotten much better, but a Cleaner, the majority of the time, they’re always gonna revert back to who he is and say the first thing that comes to his mind. It’s going to be very short. It’s usually gonna be very harsh. But that’s the way they really know how to get their point across. And that’s their natural instinct, so they always have to catch themselves for a split second. He’s gotten much better. [Last week’s game against Portland] was a great example. Normally, you see Kobe, when he had a first half like that, he’s trying to go out and get 50, 60, 70 points. But in his press conference afterward, he said,” In the second half, I wanted to make a conscious effort of getting my big man involved in there, because I know if I don’t, they end up standing around, just watching me.” That’s the evolution of starting to think, “I need these guys, not only to get to the playoffs, but to go far into the playoffs. I gotta keep them engaged.”
Tim Grover: The biggest difference is Kobe wants to know why we’re doing certain things. He wants to know the reason for it, why, what’s happening, and so forth. Michael said, “Just get it done. I’m playing basketball. This is what I do. This is what you do. I don’t need to know. I’m not interested in any of this stuff here. This is why I hired you, so I can stay focused on what I need to do.” Kobe wants to more of the details. Why am I eating this? Why am I doing this at this particular time? What is going on here? Here’s very attuned to this stuff. But I think the thing they both have in common, and the reason I call them both Cleaners, when a Cleaner screws up, he admits it. He says, “Hey, I screwed up!” I try to tell people, if you mess something up, just say, “Hey, I messed up or I effed up.”
You mentioned how Gilbert Arenas changed his personality after the gun incident and Tiger Woods publicly apologized after his scandal, and yet both still struggled. Conversely, Kobe blocked out his legal situation in Colorado and played some of the best basketball of his career. Why is he able to do this while others can’t? Tim Grover: Because Kobe and Michael had the ability not to think of external things. When they stepped between the lines, it was like, “This is my safe haven. No one can touch me here. Nothing’s gonna happen. All that other stuff, once the whistle is blowing and I step across that line again, it’s still gonna be there, so I can’t let the other stuff affect me and the end result of what I do. I’m focused in on thing. I play basketball. This is what I do. I can’t let that other stuff distract me from doing this.” It’s the ability to shut it all down, not from a physical standpoint, but from a mental standpoint.
I take the pizza and I tell them: “I’ve got a bad feeling about this. … I’ve just got a bad feeling about this.” Out of everybody in the room, [MJ] was the only one who ate. Nobody else had it. And then 2 o’clock in the morning I get a call to my room. Come to the room. He’s curled up in the fetal position. We’re looking at him, finding the team physician at that time. Immediately I told him it’s food poisoning. Not the flu.
Grover says Jordan didn’t have the flu at all. Bill Simmons and Jalen Rose have recently debated whether or not Jordan was in fact hung over for that game, a suggestion that Grover scoffs at. The real truth, Grover says, is that Jordan was poisoned. “100 percent,” Grover says on TrueHoop TV. “He was poisoned for the ‘flu game.’ Everyone called it a flu game, but we sat there. We were in the room.” Grover explains: We were in Park City, Utah, up in a hotel. Room service stopped at like nine o’clock. He got hungry and we really couldn’t find any other place to eat. So we said eh, the only thing I can find is a pizza place. So we says all right, order pizza.
Over a year ago, Bryant had a terrible shooting night in Miami and refused to leave American Airlines Arena. He showered, tossed on his practice clothes and returned to the arena floor for a long, hard workout. It was a strange, surreal scene. Mostly, it was Bryant. After he had left the building, I sent him an email: What was that about? He responded in the words of, yes, Achilles: “I want what all men want. I just want it more.”
Bryant needed someone to save him from himself, and Lakers coach Mike D’Antoni didn’t have the strength to do it. Bryant mocked the suggestion this could’ve been his final game in the NBA, that his career could’ve come crashing down on Friday night. Before Bryant ripped that Lakers uniform off his back at Staples Center, he was talking comeback, talking about studying those who had returned fastest from Achilles injuries, and doing it even faster.
Halfway across the country in Chicago, the man responsible for spending thousands of hours with Bryant and steeling Bryant’s body for so long against the threat of catastrophic injury, sat in the somber silence of his living room. “I thought about all the work, all that he puts into this,” Grover said. “I thought about what it means to him.”
Now, Bryant had made a hard cut to push past Harrison Barnes of the Golden State Warriors and suddenly he collapsed to the floor, reaching back to clutch his heel. “I told myself, ‘If he goes out of the game right here, it’s the Achilles,’ ” Grover said by phone late Friday. “But whatever it was, I knew he was going to shoot the free throws first.”
What kind of numbers would he put up?: Tim Grover: “He’d average 20. Yeah, he’d average 20. … Listen, would he be able to go out and get through an 82-game season? One thing people also [forget], he had no major injuries. … But yes, Father Time is undefeated. But again, there’s so much advancement out there … in anti-aging and so forth, so it is possible. I don’t think that he would come back unless he was 100 percent ready.”
Tell me why you truly believe if he made a comeback, he’d be the best player on the Bobcats right now: Tim Grover: “First of all, the Bobcats are a very young team, so he knows how to create [things] and how to take away guys’ strengths. … Just the way he would compete, that if one of the players actually did beat him, he would take it so seriously that he would get himself in better shape and re-challenge that individual until he’d be able to beat him again. His skill set was so high. … I guarantee it’s still higher than most of the guys out there.”
Do you think all this talk about who is better, Michael of LeBron, bothers him?: Tim Grover: “I don’t think so, that it bothers him. But again, being a competitor, he’s definitely hearing it. And it’s part of what’s probably stirring things up a little bit is this whole debate. But I don’t think it’s bothering him, because listen, records and greatness, you always think somebody’s going to come along and dethrone you. I don’t think it’s going to happen, but LeBron’s on one hell of a streak right now. … But, again, there’s a long way to go to do what M.J. did, not only including the championships, but the rest of the stuff along the way.”
Attack Athletics, an elite West Side athletic training facility built by Tim Grover and backed by his most famous client, Michael Jordan, may be headed for foreclosure. Grover’s company, Attack Properties LLC, is in receivership and owes more than $12.2 million to creditors. Among those with substantial skin in the game is Jordan, who stands to lose $1.5 million as an unsecured creditor.
Attack Athletics continues to operate under the control of a receiver. The bankruptcy filing listed Jordan as among the business’ largest creditors, saying the former Chicago Bulls star is owed $1.5 million. Another creditor listed is former NBA player Michael Finley, who guaranteed a $2 million loan.
Tim Grover, the trainer who used his connection to Michael Jordan to help him build a West Side gym for serious athletes, is in danger of losing the business. And Jordan could lose $1.5 million in the deal. A judge has rejected a Chapter 11 bankruptcy case Grover filed for his business, the Attack Athletics gym at 2641 W. Harrison. He filed for bankruptcy in April in an attempt to delay a foreclosure on the property, where he built a 60,000-square-foot facility with four NBA-sized courts. Records show Grover owes $10.17 million on a first mortgage and hasn’t made payments since 2010. With a bankruptcy off the table, the mortgage holder is free to seek foreclosure.
Sources told the Post that, last week, Wade also reached out for a trusted friend and adviser to come to him. Tim Grover, the founder and owner of Attack Athletics, is best known for all his years training Michael Jordan, and has been working lately with Kobe Bryant in Germany. After returning to the United States, Grover went with Bryant to Los Angeles, when Wade requested he come to Miami. With Bryant’s permission, Grover flew to South Florida, arriving on Saturday, watching Game 3 of the NBA Finals from AmericanAirlines Arena on Sunday night, scheduled to stay a few days to work on Wade’s body and mind.
And since it is, it was, with more than a dozen players descending Thursday on the 65,000-square foot Training Facility That Michael Jordan Built (through his 15-year association with trainer extraordinaire Grover and the star-studded clientele that delivered). One difference: Instead of showing up to lift and sweat their way through workouts in anticipation of the NBA season, these guys arrived ready to listen and ask questions about the league’s looming non-season of 2011-12, which is about a month away from being jeopardized in part or in whole by the labor lockout, which hit day No. 56. Jordan Dumars, Michigan guard and son of Detroit Pistons’ president Joe Dumars, was there to play. But the pros in attendance Thursday were consumed with business over basketball, the uncertainty about the former continuing to mess with a lot of guys’ schedules for the latter. “Slow. It’s slow,” said Grover, of the flow of NBA talent into his ATTACK Athletics complex this offseason. “They just don’t know when they’ll be starting. Guys like D-Wade and Kobe [Bryant], they know better. They don’t change [their routines].”