The Hawks were close to a deal that would have sent Chandler Parsons and the Nets’ 2020 first-round pick to Detroit for Drummond, but Atlanta was unwilling to add the pick because Drummond’s contract extension demands are currently too high, according to multiple league sources.
While Detroit’s Andre Drummond seems to be atop fans’ wish list, team sources continue to emphasize – before and since Powell’s injury – that Drummond is not a fit, tactically or financially ($27 million this season).
Drummond has a for-sale sign tattooed to his jersey, with the Pistons reportedly canvassing the league for offers. Atlanta was mentioned early, but there is a league-wide feeling that was more ownership driven, with Hawks owner Tony Ressler known to be frustrated by Atlanta’s poor play this season. Other teams have kicked the tires on Drummond, but there has been no traction on a deal to this point, a league source told SI.com.
Which bring us to on-the-block Pistons center Andre Drummond, the Mount Vernon, N.Y., native who, according to a Yahoo Sports report Thursday, plans to opt out of the $28 million final year of his contract this summer to become a free agent in a lackluster class. That should lessen other teams’ desire to trade for Drummond at the Feb. 6 deadline. According to an NBA source, the Knicks have no interest in a trade despite a report the Pistons approached them about a deal — and it makes absolutely no sense to give up pawns for Drummond if he’s opting out. But it will also make no sense if the Knicks don’t go after Drummond this July, even if they possess a young 7-foot-1 center they think can develop into something special.
The Atlanta Hawks are no longer engaging with the Detroit Pistons on a trade that would have landed them All-Star big man Andre Drummond, league sources told Yahoo Sports. Both sides were optimistic weeks ago that a deal would eventually be ironed out to pair rising star Trae Young with another top-tier talent.
But Atlanta is seeking to remain patient, knowing there will be options to improve via the draft and during free agency, sources said. In the deal for Drummond that has been nixed, Detroit would have received Damian Jones, Chandler Parsons or Allen Crabbe (who was dealt to Minnesota on Thursday) and a first-round pick, sources said.
Drummond is expected to decline his $28.8 million player option for the 2020-21 season in order to test free-agency this summer, sources said. Detroit is still actively fielding calls on Drummond, sources said. [...] If the Hawks don’t address their center need by the Feb. 6 trade deadline, Drummond is expected to be one of their top targets in free agency, sources said.
Though speculation may continue until a deal is finalized, Casey stated that his focus and his team’s focus is on the job they have to complete on the floor. “Andre is a professional," he said. "We talk to players all the time about being pros, approaching the game.”
One source said talks between the Pistons and Hawks began around Christmas. As The Athletic’s Sam Amick recently reported, Atlanta and Detroit would have already completed a deal for Drummond had the Hawks been willing to throw in a first-round pick. The initial deal consisted of only expiring contracts. Teams aren’t offering first-round picks right now. On the surface, Detroit could look like it loses any trade that just involves expiring contracts, but the prospect of securing that much salary-cap space may turn into a win in the long run. This is why Drummond trade rumors could drag out until closer to the Feb. 6 deadline before a deal ultimately gets done.
Per league sources, Detroit has been actively shopping Drummond for some time. One source said talks between the Pistons and Hawks began around Christmas. As The Athletic’s Sam Amick recently reported, Atlanta and Detroit would have already completed a deal for Drummond had the Hawks been willing to throw in a first-round pick. The initial deal consisted of only expiring contracts.
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The expectation is that Drummond will be traded as the Pistons look to move on to the next chapter and officially start to rebuild. “We probably have to take some chances with some of the young guys, but absolutely,” Pistons owner Tom Gores said Jan. 2. “That’s what we’re aspiring to — something bigger than what we’ve been doing, but I haven’t lost faith in what (Pistons coach Dwane Casey) is doing and how we’re developing the players and our future.” But in talking to league insiders for the past two weeks, parting with Drummond is tougher than it sounds. I checked Saturday morning with a league source familiar with the Knicks’ front office thinking and was told, “there’s nothing there.”
The source said it was the Pistons who initiated discussions with a package centered around Drummond and another Pistons player for big man Julius Randle and guard Frank Ntilikina, a player the Pistons have previously tried to pry from the Knicks.
No Pistons-Knicks deal for Andre Drummond is considered imminent, but New York's recent conversations with Detroit about Drummond were more than just exploratory talks, according to SNY sources familiar with the matter.
How a Drummond acquisition would impact second-year center Mitchell Robinson is unclear. Robinson is certainly coveted by many teams around the league and would bring immense value to any Knicks trade. It doesn't seem as if Drummond and Robinson would fit on the same roster.
Stadium: "One team, I'm told, that has made an inquiry (on Andre Drummond) are the Knicks." NBA Insider @ShamsCharania shares an update on the Pistons center.
Ian Begley: Knicks have talked to Pistons about Andre Drummond trade, SNY source confirms. First reported by Stafium.
Detroit is still sussing out the market for Drummond, sources say. His potential availability presents interesting dilemmas for suitors. It's easy to get perhaps too low on Drummond. He's an old-fashioned brutish center valuable on defense only when he goes full throttle, and even then he isn't near the class of Rudy Gobert and Joel Embiid.
Yet while Detroit’s talks with Atlanta regarding Drummond were revealed by ESPN last week, a source with knowledge of the talks downplayed the prospect of that deal happening. While Atlanta’s brutal season (8-30) has added significant pressure to bolster the roster and give young star Trae Young more help, the Hawks, per a second source, could have landed Drummond already if they were willing to include a first-round pick in the deal. Boston and Dallas, it’s worth noting here at the top, are known to be looking for a big.
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Who are the Top 5 most likely landing spots for Andre Drummond? James Edwards: Atlanta, Dallas (who could use a physical big man next to Porzingis and him and Porzingis are friends), Toronto (I've heard Masai has liked him for a long time and obviously, Marc Gasol and Serge Ibaka are both expiring contracts; him and Kyle Lowry are friends), people say Boston, just because they think they need the center, but I don't see that one working.
Do the Warriors sneak into the Top 5 for Andre Drummond then? James Edwards: That might be a good five but again... [the Warriors] just never pay that much for centers and Andre - part of this is money and he wants to get paid.
Drummond, who has spent his entire eight-year career with the organization, did not hesitate when asked why he would like to stay in Detroit. "I'm not a quitter, for one," Drummond said after scoring 14 points and grabbing 18 rebounds in Saturday's 111-104 win over the Golden State Warriors. "I was never brought up to be a quitter. If I start somewhere, I try to finish there, try to complete the mission, which is to win a championship here. It will never be me that wants to go anywhere ... I love being here. I would love to play here the rest of my career."
"I've been dealing with this since the year I signed my contract so the trade rumors will always come around, so this is another year for me," Drummond said. "It's always that time of year around January where trade talks come. Nothing's happened. Obviously, the talks have started, so these questions will start to come. I've been looking forward to them coming, but for me, I'm just going to continue to play the game I play, play here in Detroit where I love to be, and whatever happens, happens."
While discussing the conversation, Drummond said he did not get the sense any deal was "imminent." "It wasn't really much to talk about," Drummond said. "He just said it's that time of the year again. It's nothing that's imminent. It's not like they're going to move me tomorrow. Obviously, they're listening. But I think I'm where I'm at."
James Edwards III: Dwane Casey said he has talked to Drummond since the news came out. Obviously he didn't go into detail, but he said if you're doing what you're supposed to, there will always be interest and people calling.
Rod Beard: #Pistons Dwane Casey says he's talked to Andre Drummond about trade rumors: "Most of the players in this league understand there's always going to be rumors; if you're about anything, you're always gonna have interest. If you're not producing ... nobody's gonna be calling."
The Detroit Pistons are in talks about a trade that would send star center Andre Drummond to the Atlanta Hawks, according to multiple persons with knowledge of the situation. The potential deal could bring the Pistons expiring contracts and a protected 2020 first-round pick, according to sources, who spoke to the Free Press on condition of anonymity.
Multiple league sources confirmed to The Detroit News that the Pistons are in talks with several teams on a potential trade for center Andre Drummond.
The sources indicated that deals seem to be in the exploratory stages, but ahead of the Feb. 6 trade deadline, the Pistons look to be doing their due diligence to try and get something for Drummond, who can opt-out of his contract after this season.
The Free Press has spoken with multiple front offices executives in the past year and has yet to find anyone who thinks Drummond is worthy of a max contract. Teams are moving away from traditional centers and looking for big men capable of making 3-pointers.
Brad Townsend: High-ranking Mavs official told me 2 weeks ago that Drummond makes no sense for them. Hard for me to believe he suddenly makes sense now.
The Hawks have discussed sending a package that includes a 2020 first-round pick via the Brooklyn Nets and the salary-cap relief of expiring contracts for Detroit, league sources said. A potential deal would include other assets. There's an increasing belief inside and outside the Pistons organization that a Drummond deal is growing in likelihood prior to the Feb. 6 NBA trade deadline, league sources said.
Detroit is preparing for Drummond, 26, to decline his $29 million option on the 2020-21 season and become a free agent, league sources said. Pistons owner Tom Gores has long been a strong advocate of Drummond's, but there's an increased movement in the organization to use Drummond as a trade asset to begin creating some salary-cap flexibility for the future, league sources said.
While the Pistons are accelerating their efforts to gauge the Drummond market, he has been on the trade radar for much of the year. In November, Heavy.com reported that Drummond had attracted interest from the Hornets, who had been monitoring him for the previous year.
Vincent Goodwill: Boston, Dallas, Toronto have also registered interest in Andre Drummond, according to sources. Drummond has relationships with Kristaps Porzingis and Kyle Lowry
Vincent Ellis: Drummond wasn’t at practice today because of a stomach ailment. For the conspiracy theorists, he was spotted taking Pepto on the bench last night. Dealing with what Bruce Brown had/has. #Pistons.
No deal is imminent, but Detroit is talking to Atlanta and several other teams on Drummond, sources said. Drummond has a $28 million player option for next season that he is unlikely to exercise, forcing the Pistons to consider the possibility of losing him in free agency.
James Edwards III: Per source, nothing is imminent on Drummond trade talks. He was not at practice due to stomach ailment.
Jeff Siegel: Andre Drummond has an 8% trade bonus in his contract, which as of today is worth $1.27M and drops by $12,245 with each passing day between now and the deadline. That amount will impact how much ATL, or another team, has to send out in a trade.
Jeff Siegel: Atlanta and Drummond would not be allowed to sign any sort of favorable extension if they were to trade for him, as any extension Drummond would sign would have to wait until six months after the trade, and by that point he could be a free agent and just sign a regular contract.
Rod Beard: A league source says nothing is imminent in a #Pistons Andre Drummond trade. It looks to be that they're just doing due diligence in checking around the league. This also means they are likely believe that he will opt out this summer.
Adrian Wojnarowski: Detroit and Atlanta have been engaged in talks on a trade centered on Andre Drummond, league sources tell ESPN. No deal imminent, but Detroit is talking to Hawks and several other teams on Drummond, sources said.
There is a scenario in which Detroit could trade its franchise center this season. Again, it’ll depend on where the Pistons are in the playoff race by the time the deadline inches closer. There also is a scenario in which the Pistons could let him walk in free agency. And, of course, depending on if the Pistons can turn it around, he could return next year on a new contract. One source said Drummond likely will sign a new contract that averages somewhere between $20 million and $25 million annually, not the max.
The Hornets are remaking the roster and they’ve gotten themselves pretty well stocked with young guards and wings in the process, plus Washington. But there’s still a glaring hole in the middle and as the Hornets are primed to finally be rid of some of the albatross contracts that have weighed the franchise since its last playoff appearance (in 2016). At long last, they are in position to fill that void. The target, according to league sources: Pistons big man Andre Drummond, a player in whom the Hornets have had an interest for at least a year.
It could be time for the Hornets to do something the franchise does not typically do: get aggressive. “He’ll be a priority there,” one league executive told Heavy.com. “It’s just a matter of whether they make him a priority now and give up something to get him or try to make the move later. It’s a very cautious group, Mitch Kupchak and those guys. But they might want to get this guy into the fold sooner rather than later, there’s just a lot of incentive there on both sides.”
Westbrook will make $38 million next season, so the initial thought was the Thunder would have to take back Andre Drummond’s $27.1 million as part of any package. “They would want picks. They have (Steven) Adams, no interest in Drummond. Doubt there is anything there.”
Vincent Ellis: #Pistons vice chair Arn Tellem on Drummond: "He’s a huge part of our team and our team’s success right now. We certainly see Andre being here now and in the future." Pistons' Andre Drummond shrugs off trade talk, on 'best run' of career freep.com/story/sports/n… via @freep
Multiple league sources have told the Free Press that the center could be had for the right price over the last few years – despite the narrative that owner Tom Gores is so fond of the Pistons’ 2012 first-round draft pick that he’s untouchable.
Drummond doesn’t get that impression. He’s aware that he’s a commodity that would be moved if Gores and the new front office, headed by Ed Stefanski and Pistons vice chairman Arn Tellem, were presented with a deal that would clearly better the franchise. But Drummond wants to be with, and win with, the Pistons.
It would be a disappointing return for Memphis, but interest has been minimal. The Kings and Pistons inquired about Gasol, as reported last month on The Ringer, but there’s no traction on a deal. The Pistons offered a package involving Andre Drummond, who is is owed $55.8 million over the next two seasons, but Memphis didn’t have interest, according to league sources. Memphis wanted Bogdan Bogdanovic from the Kings for Gasol, league sources say, but he isn’t being made available for an aging, expensive center whose individual style doesn’t mesh with the team’s as a whole.
There has not been much buzz about Gasol, though he is hoping for a trade, sources familiar with the matter say. Teams are waiting to see if the Grizzlies' asking price drops a bit, sources say. Memphis has not shown any real interest yet in Andre Drummond, sources say. Detroit might be saving other trade chips for someone else. Gasol's $26 million player option for next season brings a lot of uncertainty for any interested party.
It's been an eventful year for the 23-year-old big man, who received a $130 million, five-year contract from the Pistons last offseason. Less than a season after finalizing that deal, Drummond was already the subject of trade speculation. "I never had to deal with that before," he said. "I wasn't playing the way I was supposed to play."
"I don't get tired as easy," Drummond said. "I'm sleeping better." If Drummond comes back next season with improved endurance, that could help him start living up to expectations again — and help him put last season behind him. "I wasn't playing up to my potential," he said. "I can't allow that to happen again."
Drummond, 23, admitted Thursday that going from franchise cornerstone to franchise afterthought bothered him. “I never had to deal with that before,” Drummond said via conference call to promote his appearance – along with other NBA stars – in South Africa this week.
Andre Drummond: “It was tough for my family and me to hear those rumors, but guys making that much money, not having the year they’re supposed to have, obviously that’s what’s going to happen. I’ve accepted that.”
Andre Drummond is keeping it pretty real when it comes to his future -- telling TMZ Sports when it comes to blockbuster trade rumors, "Anything is possible in this league." The rumors are heating up that the Detroit Pistons star could be shipped out before the season starts -- and even engaged with a Twitter fan this week who suggested Drummond could be part of a mega trade to Cleveland for Kyrie Irving. But when we asked about it, he didn't exactly rule it out -- "I play for Detroit now, so we'll keep it at that."
@DetroitPistons trade @Reggie_Jackson ,@iAmSJ and @AndreDrummond for Kyrie now! Andre Drummond: 😅and this is why you are typing from a cellphone and not a general manger 😫🤷🏽♂️
Toronto called dangling Jonas Valanciunas before the deadline, and Sacramento and Phoenix also expressed strong interest in Drummond in June, per sources. There's enough grease to ultimately move the wheels and find Drummond a new home before the season starts, and he's almost certainly not finishing out the final four years of his five-year, max contract in Detroit.
While Detroit was figuring out what to do with Caldwell-Pope, the team also was taking calls on center Andre Drummond, who — like virtually everyone else with the Pistons — disappointed last season. But owner Tom Gores is a huge fan of Drummond, who started the 2016 All-Star Game. And with many teams sensing dissatisfaction from Coach and Team President Stan Van Gundy as it relates to his big man, none of the offers came close to meriting a serious discussion about Drummond’s future with the franchise.
After praising Kennard’s offensive ability – and blasting his defensive shortcomings – the topic turned to the holdover Pistons, notably Drummond, the talented young center who had fallen out of grace with the fan base because of his inconsistent play. “I think he was hurt at the trade deadline (when his name came up),” Van Gundy said. “Now, he’s been through it. Any of us would be bothered by it, but it’s a fact of life in the NBA. Two weeks ago, he and (Reggie Jackson’s) names were both in there, trade rumors, on teams we hadn’t even talked to on that one. These things come up. “That’s the reality of it.”
Rod Beard: #Pistons SVG on Drummond: "I think he was hurt (at the rumors) at the trade deadline. Now he's been through it."
Vincent Ellis: Have been told multiple times by folks that Drummond trade unlikely. Obviously that can change.
Matt Dery: Hearing from a pretty reliable source that Sacramento showing big interest in Andre Drummond. We'll see if anything happens with it.
On Wednesday ESPN’s Brian Windhorst told The Jump that the Los Angeles Clippers have spoken to the Detroit Pistons about trading for Andre Drummond. The Detroit Pistons have been quiet amidst the craziness breaking out around the NBA on the eve of the draft. In fact, the Pistons have been too quiet. Much like before they traded for Reggie Jackson at the 2013-14 trade deadline and Tobias Harris at the 2014-15 deadline, there’s been virtually nothing coming out of Auburn Hills aside from press conferences about draft prep.
Jake Fischer: The Pistons have been gauging interest in Andre Drummond and Reggie Jackson since well before the trade deadline. Scuttle is nothing new.
Michael Scotto: Sources: Detroit Pistons are gauging the trade market on Andre Drummond and Reggie Jackson. Both were on the market at the trade deadline.
SiriusXM NBA Radio: .@DetroitPistons GM Jeff Bower "He's a big part of our success but we are looking for more" on Andre Drummond
Jason Jones: Around the league Drummond and KCP can still be had in the right deal, for say a Paul George which Detroit might like, Indy not so much
The Detroit Pistons are welcoming offers on two players previously thought off-limits -- former All-Star center Andre Drummond and swingman Kentavious Caldwell-Pope -- as Thursday's trade deadline nears, according to league sources. Sources told ESPN.com that the Pistons have not committed to trading either player but have also not discouraged offers from interested teams for the two most prized names on their roster.
Sources say Drummond is especially well-regarded by Pistons owner Tom Gores and thus unlikely to be dealt before Thursday's deadline. The Detroit Free Press also termed it "very likely" that Drummond will remain with the Pistons.
One league source told ESPN's Ramona Shelburne that the Portland Trail Blazers called to inquire about Drummond but quickly abandoned their interest when Detroit asked for Blazers guard C.J. McCollum in return. The Blazers, sources told Shelburne, regard McCollum as an untouchable.
Sources told ESPN's Brian Windhorst, meanwhile, that the Pistons and Toronto Raptors have also had exploratory Drummond discussions.
Van Gundy dispelled any notion that Drummond was being shopped or is on the verge of being dealt. General manager Jeff Bower has brought nothing to him regarding a serious Drummond trade proposal. “Jeff talks to virtually every team in the league all the time. As I’ve said before, every name on our roster has come up. That’s his job. That’s what we’re supposed to be doing. There hasn’t been a serious discussion about Andre, but that doesn’t mean there haven’t been discussions about Andre. The concern, I guess, would be from Andre’s standpoint if nobody had any interest in him.”
“That’s just the way it is,” Drummond said. “Everybody’s name gets thrown around when you’re a high-profile guy. My name happened to be in there. I’m not mad or anything like that. I’m still here to play basketball. Whatever happens, happens. I can’t control that.”
Multiple persons with firsthand knowledge of the Detroit Pistons organization have told the Free Press over the past 24 hours that center Andre Drummond very likely will remain with the team past Thursday’s 3 p.m. trade deadline. “We want to keep him,” one person texted to the Free Press.
Rod Beard: #Pistons Andre Drummond on potential trade rumors 🔥🔥: "It’s just the way the NBA is; it’s all a business. Everybody's name gets thrown around when you're a high-profile guy. My name happened to be in there. I'm not mad or anything like that. I'm still here to play basketball and whatever happens, happens. I can't control that.'
Aaron McMann: Andre Drummond, Reggie Jackson both at Pistons practice today, in case you were wondering.
Michael Scotto: Sources: Pistons engaged Kings on a Drummond for Cousins swap earlier this season. Kings declined offer then. Unclear if Pistons now in mix.
Any Drummond deal at the deadline is an extreme long shot, but Jackson remains in play for Minnesota, Orlando, New Orleans, or some mystery destination. Even if Detroit keeps him, missing the playoffs would put dramatic changes on the table this summer.
ESPN.com published a Pistons report from Zach Lowe this morning. It’s an interesting read that examines the uncertainty and promise of the team, with tidbits on Andre Drummond, Reggie Jackson and the team’s trade prospects. Van Gundy took exception to calling it "illuminating." “I’ve heard about it,” Van Gundy said. “He throws a lot of stuff out there, so I don’t know if that’s illuminating. I could write a lot of stuff, too, but would that be illuminating? Would it be illuminating or would it be (expletive)? There’s a fine line between illuminating and (expletive).”
They needed talent; they would figure out the rest later. The figuring it out part has been harder than expected, especially with both Jackson and Drummond plateauing. Detroit has quietly explored the trade market for each of its franchise centerpieces, according to sources across the league, and come away disappointed with the potential return. (Van Gundy himself has said anyone is available for "the right price.")
January 22, 2021 | 10:23 am EST Update
Shams Charania: Free agent center Alex Len has agreed to a one-year deal with the Washington Wizards, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. After clearing waivers, Len had multiple suitors and chose opportunity with Wizards, who needed depth in frontcourt.
Curry also wanted clarity on whether officials could review an ejection in the future under similar circumstances. “It’s pretty self-explanatory,” Curry said of the questionable second technical. “He’s been very vocal with James. I know he had already gotten a tech early in the game and obviously mindful of that, he was just talking to his teammate. The refs got confused. And I don’t know what the rules are in that situation when it’s pretty clear who he was talking to, and I don’t know if you can take it back in the moment, but it was pretty glaring that he was talking to his own teammate and kind of unfortunate that it got confused, so move on.”
In addition, there is an ongoing debate of how much a defence can truly impact an opponent’s 3-point percentage? Frequency, sure, but accuracy is less certain. Anecdotally, though, opponents seem to be more prepared for the Raptors cadre of shot-bothers to fly by them. Yet, it remains part of the strategy. “It’s a really fine line in the game,” Nick Nurse said before the win over Dallas earlier in the week. “We normally want to jump by when we know the shot is going to be taken. What you’re doing there is putting a maximum contest on it. It takes a little bit to be able to do that. Kyle (Lowry) is really good at that, those experienced guys like Fred (VanVleet). But after listening to Green bark at various points throughout the night, hearing his frustration one more time apparently was enough, in the officials’ minds at the time, to warrant an ejection. “At halftime Ben Taylor came out and told me that it was a mistake,” Kerr said. “That John Butler didn’t realize that Draymond was yelling at his teammate. He thought he was yelling at him.”
Kobe and Gianna Bryant will be honored in Reggio Emilia where Kobe had lived for two years when he was a child. The city of Reggio Emilia will name a square after Kobe and Gianna Bryant next January 26th, one year after their tragic deaths.
January 22, 2021 | 3:55 am EST Update
Washington is expected to check in on Len if he does clear waivers, according to someone familiar with their plans. It is unclear how strong their interest would be, as they are exploring several options.
Your name has popped up in trade rumors a bit over the last year. Do you keep up with trade rumors or do you try to block them out? Kendrick Nunn: “I pretty much block them out unless my agent contacts and tells me that there’s a possibility that I could get traded. Anything on social media and stuff, obviously I’m on there so it comes up and I read it, but I try to just ignore it and stick to what my team tells me.”