The Derrick Rose era in Detroit is nearing a resolution, as the two sides are working to sort out his future. The New York Knicks are engaged in active talks to acquire the Pistons guard, a move that would reunite the former league MVP with head coach Tom Thibodeau, sources tell The Athletic.
The Pistons and Rose mutually agreed that a trade would be best for both sides, per sources. While there is a great deal of respect for one another, the rebuilding Pistons plan to increase their usage of young players as the season progresses, according to those sources. Rose, meanwhile, has continued to show on the floor that he could improve a team that is in title or playoff contention.
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The Knicks, among others, have interest in Rose, an NBA source familiar with the situation confirmed to The Post. According to sources, the Knicks have not had any discussions yet with the Pistons. Rose is an impending free agent and the Pistons own the worst record in the NBA at 4-13 and are tied to their lottery pick, Killian Hayes, at point guard.
The Post has learned Thibodeau pushed hard to sign Gibson recently for depth. Sources close to Thibodeau believe he would still like to reunite with Rose. While with Minnesota, Thibodeau tried to pry Rose from the Knicks before the 2017 trade deadline but backed out with hours to go. Thibodeau’s T’wolves later signed Rose as a free agent.
A couple of notes on the Knicks’ reported interest in Derrick Rose... Tom Thibodeau coached Rose in Chicago and signed him in Minnesota. So Thibodeau would probably be in favor of the Knicks’ pursuit. Prior to the 2020 NBA trade deadline, neither the Detroit Pistons nor Rose had strong interest in executing a trade that would send Rose out of Detroit. Rose was happy with the Pistons and saw Detroit as a potential long-term home, per SNY sources.
Under new GM Troy Weaver, it’s possible the Pistons take a different approach with Rose. Rose, it’s worth noting, enjoyed his time with the Knicks and hoped to re-sign with them in the 2018 offseason. The Knicks opted against re-signing him and Rose subsequently signed short-term deals with Minnesota and Detroit. Rose is set to be a free agent in the 2021 offseason. If the Knicks were to give up assets for him, it would indicate that they planned on re-signing him in the 2021 offseason. New York will have significant cap space this the coming offseason.
New York and the Clippers are among interested teams in Pistons guard Derrick Rose, sources said. Knicks coach Tom Thibodeau has a long history with Rose, coaching the former league MVP in Chicago and Minnesota.
Detroit Pistons: Will Blake Griffin be traded? Scotto: Derrick Rose has the most trade value for them, but I know they love him with Killian Hayes and developing him. I’ve heard ownership loves Rose. For me, can Blake Griffin be traded, given he has one more year after this with a player option? Medina: I can’t see it. He has a big number. He’s been injury-riddled these last four years. I know he had a good 2018-19 season.
Michael Scotto: I do think they’re eventually going to look to flip Derrick Rose at the trade deadline and get an asset back for him. It’s been already determined that Killian Hayes, their rookie draft pick, is going to be the point guard of the present and the future. That doesn’t mean that a guy like Rose doesn’t have value to a team that’s contending. I do look for him to be their most sought after asset as we get into the season.
Following a front office makeover, the Pistons are in a rebuild mode. At 32, Rose isn’t part of the long-term solution for Detroit but is still an attractive asset. “Either he or the pick Detroit has are their most valuable assets right now,” an Eastern Conference executive told HoopsHype.
Now, with the Lakers in a much different position, coming off a championship and measuring what it will take to remain a contender as other teams around the league improve, Rose is again a focal point. And with some pressure to act, both the Lakers and the Pistons might be pushed into finding common ground on a trade. “I think both sides were reluctant when they went into in January, February,” one general manager told Heavy.com. “I don’t think the Lakers wanted to make a major move because they thought they could do something on the buyout market. And I don’t think the Pistons wanted to make a major move because Derrick was happy there. You know, the Lakers wanted to be involved in case the Clippers got involved or someone else, the Bucks or the Nuggets, whoever. So there was interest but not too serious. Now, everything has shifted a little. Now, they’re both in a position to where a deal is much more likely now.”
A fresh chapter in Detroit Pistons franchise history is set to be written next season, but new general manager Troy Weaver still sees veteran stars Blake Griffin and Derrick Rose as part of the "plans going forward." Griffin, 31, is coming off left knee surgery after playing in just 18 games this season. "I'm excited about having the chance to work with Blake," Weaver, a longtime Oklahoma City Thunder executive, said Monday at his introductory news conference. "Obviously, being in Oklahoma City for the last 12 years, I remember Blake quite well, playing at OU and his family being around there, being from Oklahoma City. So, I'm very familiar with Blake.
Meanwhile, sources say the Lakers offered a package involving Alex Caruso and draft compensation for Derrick Rose, which was rejected as the Pistons had set a high value on the former NBA MVP. The Lakers stood pat at the deadline — and VP of basketball operations Rob Pelinka instead upgraded the roster post-deadline. The Lakers remain the No. 1 seed in the West at 47-13.
Derrick Rose signed a two-year, $15 million deal with the Detroit Pistons this past offseason, and the Eastern Conference team reportedly has no plans to negotiate a buyout with the point guard even though the Los Angeles Lakers were interested in a trade. Brian Windhorst reported as much on The Hoop Collective (h/t Real GM): "No, there's no chance. He's under contract for next year at a good number. From what I understand, when the Lakers called the Pistons and expressed an interest in trading for Derrick Rose, the Pistons said 'Hey, we appreciate you calling, but we're not trading him. Dwane Casey likes him. We think he's going to be important for us next year.' He just wasn't available."
The Detroit Pistons rebuffed interest from the Los Angeles Lakers in trading for Derrick Rose. The Lakers have been seeking a perimeter scorer to round out their roster. "No, there's no chance," said Brian Windhorst on The Hoop Collective Podcast in reply to a question on whether the Pistons might negotiate a buyout with Rose. "He's under contract for next year at a good number. From what I understand, when the Lakers called the Pistons and expressed an interest in trading for Derrick Rose, the Pistons said 'hey, we appreciate you calling, but we're not trading him. Dwane Casey likes him. We think he's going to be important for us next year.' He just wasn't available."
Rod Beard: #Pistons Stefanski on potentially moving Derrick Rose: "We would have to get a nice package to move Derrick. He's had an unbelievable year."
James Edwards III: Stefanski on keeping Rose: "We would have had to get a nice package for Derrick. He's had an unbelievable year. We like him as a leader with the young guys. They probably idolize him." Said that you'd have to ask other teams if the injury played a part in interest.
Derrick Rose doesn’t want to be traded from the Detroit Pistons despite widespread interest, and barring an unforeseen offer, he’ll be a Piston for the remainder of the season, sources told Yahoo Sports. If the Pistons are able to fetch an offer for Rose that includes a lottery pick, it’s something the franchise will seriously consider as they ponder a rebuild, sources told Yahoo Sports.
If the Pistons are able to fetch an offer for Rose that includes a lottery pick, it’s something the franchise will seriously consider as they ponder a rebuild, sources told Yahoo Sports. But it appears likely Rose will stay in Detroit with the Pistons, the franchise that gave him a two-year deal this off-season at a cap-friendly number of $15 million.
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Shams Charania on Derrick Rose: "He wants to be in Detroit. Derrick feels at home and Detroit has embraced him with open arms."
Also, Sixers guard Zhaire Smith was being mentioned in possible packages for Pistons guard Derrick Rose, an Eastern Conference league executive said.
Vincent Ellis: Derrick Rose on trade rumors: It’s up to the front office. Arn (Tellem) gave me his word that if something were to happen, he will text or call, but I told him that I want to stay here, but it’s not up to me. You already know how that goes.”
The Sixers have been linked to a resurgent Derrick Rose, their former forward Covington and sharpshooter Davis Bertans. But the asking price, particularly for Covington, one source said, has been too steep. As in: Matisse Thybulle, plus a first-rounder — a hang-up worthy offer.
The Pistons are open to discussing deals for Derrick Rose, with an asking price of a lottery-level first-round pick, according to sources.
Derrick Rose: Per several sources, the 31-year-old Rose — aside from one or two young players — is considered to be Detroit’s best asset at the deadline. The former MVP has scored 20-plus points for 13 straight games, which he’s never done before in his career. Playoff-contending teams have shown interest in Rose, but there’s a sense the Pistons, who don’t want to be a laughing stock during a rebuild, won’t trade him just to do it. They’ll want value — a first-round pick or an intriguing young prospect — to consider moving him.
NBA Central: The Detroit Pistons are reportedly asking for a first round pick in any deal centered around Derrick Rose, per @TheAthleticNBA
The Los Angeles Lakers, Philadelphia 76ers and multiple teams with championship aspirations have expressed interest in trading for Detroit Pistons guard Derrick Rose, league sources told Yahoo Sports. The Clippers have checked in on Rose as well, but it was more of a common exploratory talk, sources said. The Lakers and Sixers are in search of point guard assistance for the stretch run, sources said.
Rose is happy with the Pistons and isn’t looking to be traded, sources said, but the decision is beyond his control being. He has one more year at $7.6 million remaining on his contract.
You talk about comfort level here and you chose to come here in free agency. There may be trade interest in you before the Feb. 6 deadline. What do you want to happen? Rose: I haven’t really thought about it. Me and [agent] B.J. [Armstrong] haven’t talked about it. When we have talked, it was more about All-Star and what appearances I have for adidas. It wasn’t anything else as far as like what teams are calling, this and that. We were pretty straightforward. We talk about how I play.
Q: You talk about comfort level here and you chose to come here in free agency. There may be trade interest in you before the Feb. 6 deadline. What do you want to happen? Derrick Rose: I haven’t really thought about it. Me and [agent] B.J. [Armstrong] haven’t talked about it. When we have talked, it was more about All-Star and what appearances I have for adidas. It wasn’t anything else as far as like what teams are calling, this and that. We were pretty straightforward. We talk about how I play.
September 21, 2021 | 1:36 pm EDT Update
Complicating matters with that caveat of right now, of course, is the reality that the Sixers also do not appear close to a trade they are willing to go through with that gives Simmons his desired fresh start. More than two months after posting one of my Tuesday newsletter extravaganzas on Substack for the first time on July 13 — also a breakdown, on that occasion, of the latest on the Simmons front — Philadelphia looks no closer to a trade to bring an end to this stalemate.
Weeks of Philadelphia’s Simmons talks with various teams haven’t brought the Sixers to the brink of a deal, largely because Morey is the one faced with trying to get commensurate value for his All-Star and still asking for so much in return in his determination to recoup a trade package that, as one source put it, keeps Philadelphia in title contention. History, however, says that Philadelphia’s president of basketball operations shouldn’t count on getting a glittering package back when a deal finally materializes — his own history.
I reported Monday that the Sixers don’t expect Simmons to show and are resigned to try to keep working behind the scenes to try to convince him to reconsider that stance. After I published that, another source close to the situation told me: “Right now, I don’t see a scenario where Ben is back in Philly.” The source meant it with permanence. As in: Simmons’ career with the Sixers, to the source, is over.
I was told very clearly that the Sixers do not liken these circumstances to Al Horford’s last season in Oklahoma City or John Wall’s in Houston. As the start of training camp draws near, Philadelphia has shown zero interest to date in striking the sort of mutual agreement that Wall and the Rockets just hatched to shelve the former All-Star point guard.
The Sixers have not lowered the bar on what they’re seeking in a Simmons trade — yet. Toronto, Minnesota, Cleveland, San Antonio and Sacramento — all of them, league sources say, have engaged with Philadelphia in Simmons trade talks. They’re also all bubble playoff teams at best based in markets not known for attracting free agents and surely love the idea of acquiring Simmons when the 25-year-old is locked into three guaranteed seasons on his contract after this one.
Yet league sources maintain, as noted above, that the Sixers are actively trying to convince Simmons to rejoin the team even though he has made it clear to management that he doesn’t want to spend another second as a Sixer. I was told very clearly that the Sixers do not liken these circumstances to Al Horford’s last season in Oklahoma City or John Wall’s in Houston. As the start of training camp draws near, Philadelphia has shown zero interest to date in striking the sort of mutual agreement that Wall and the Rockets just hatched to shelve the former All-Star point guard.
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