NBA rumors: Wolves have talked to Indiana about Myles Turner

Darren Wolfson: It is clear that Sachin Gupta of the Wolves wants to upgrade their roster. Myles Turner very much in the Wolves mix. They have talked to Indiana. Not an easy trade to complete, though.

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Rival teams are ramping up conversations with the Pacers involving guard Caris LeVert and center Myles Turner. The Mavericks and Knicks are expressing interest in trading for Turner, sources said. The Lakers and Hornets have had a level of interest in Turner as well, sources added. The Cavaliers are among interested teams in LeVert, those sources said, as he would provide a combo guard able to handle the ball and playmaker in the season-ending absence of Collin Sexton and Rubio.
There were talks last summer between the Hornets and Pacers for Turner, and sources believe those talks could be resumed before the deadline.
League sources told The Sacramento Bee the Kings have not engaged the Pacers in talks for Sabonis or Turner since last week when The Athletic reported Indiana is open to discussions. The website reported the Pacers are receptive to trade talks for guard Caris LeVert and either Sabonis or Turner as they move toward a rebuild, but the Kings have not shown interest in either of Indiana’s big men, sources told The Bee.
Scott Agness: Myles Turner walks in with a big smile and begins: “Are y’all gonna address the elephant in the room or am I?”
A little update to our Wednesday morning note on the Knicks and Myles Turner: As the Pacers reportedly pivot to a rebuild, there are Knicks decision-makers in favor of pursuing Turner via trade this season. Turner, a 25-year-old center, is under contract through 2022-23 and is making $17.5 million per season.
Scott Agness on Myles Turner: I've heard there's been some talks with the Lakers, previously Charlotte checked in several times. But really, he hasn't been in consistent trade talks. His name has been mentioned by outside people.
Tony East: Myles Turner: "I know my worth. I hold myself to a high regard. And I expressed that out into the open." He says he has had conversations with coaches, front office, and teammates about his role. Says it was not a shot at anyone at all.
Scott Agness: There's no obvious choice (between Domantas Sabonis and Myles Turner) because there's no obvious deal out there. There's no significant or far-along dialogue with any teams pacers have made some calls- I'm told other teams have checked in and seen and evaluated the value that the Pacers want back for those guys and even others on the team because I think it's open season a little bit. I wouldn't classify it as a fire sale by any means.
Scott Agness: I believe, from what I've heard, Sabonis has more trade value. Yes, Turner is a little bit more interchangeable is the word that comes to mind because he can shoot outside.
The Pacers' sudden willingness to field trade calls on two-time All-Star Domantas Sabonis and center Myles Turner, perhaps even to entertain a rebuild, does not bring them closer to the potential acquisition of Philadelphia's Ben Simmons. The 76ers have essentially completed a third of their season at 14-12 but league sources say that president of basketball operations Daryl Morey continues to hold firm on his ambitions in a Simmons deal, seeking a return package for Simmons headlined by a player from the Damian Lillard/Shai Gilgeous-Alexander tier.
While Turner enjoyed every component of what he is looking for Wednesday night, his struggles to find that place in the offense consistently have made him increasingly frustrated with his situation in Indiana. “It’s clear that I’m not valued as anything more than a glorified role player here, and I want something more, more opportunity,” Turner told The Athletic Tuesday. “I’m trying really hard to make the role that I’m given here work and find a way to maximize it. I’ve been trying to the past two, three seasons. But it’s clear to me that, just numbers-wise, I’m not valued as more than a rotational role player, and I hold myself in a higher regard than that.”
“I love it (In Indiana). I want to win here with this franchise, for whatever that may be,” Turner said after Indiana’s win over the Knicks Wednesday. “We just gotta get back to bringing excitement and joy back into this building. A lot of that comes from just playing hard, playing like we did tonight. Diving for loose balls and that stuff, that’s what this state appreciates about the way we play basketball and we gotta do that night in and night out.”
So Pacers president Kevin Pritchard and Carlisle convened those three players and Brogdon for an impromptu meeting to address the report. “We just talked about the article and how we try to be super transparent with the players. If they ever want to ask me anything, they can ask me anything,” Pritchard told The Athletic after the meeting was over. “When we get close to making a trade, we don’t try to just bop a guy over the head with, ‘Oh, by the way, you’re traded.’ We will give them a heads up, and we’ve done that multiple times.”
Pritchard told the players that while they are fielding plenty of calls for Sabonis and Turner, in particular, the organization still believes in their pairing and wants to see it through this season, according to multiple sources in the room. He and Carlisle told the players they still believe they can turn the season around and they do not want to go into a full rebuild at this juncture. But they have to say that if they want to hold the team together. At 11-16, can they afford to keep seeing if this can work?
The immediate residual effect from the meetings this week was obvious Wednesday night, as the offense was as cohesive as it has been all season and Turner looked great attacking the paint off the dribble. But as much as the team is telling Turner the right things as he voices his frustrations, the track record of the past few years has left him skeptical positive changes to accommodate him will last, per player sources. Regardless, Wednesday night epitomized what Carlisle is looking for out of his team.
Michael Scotto: This is a podcast from Myles I think is pretty relevant. He said, “The organization is going to do what’s best for the organization. They’re not inclined to care about your feelings in a sense. Now that I see myself in these rumors all the time, it’s just like another day for me. It’s like, ‘Oh, what else is new?’” Some scouts and executives have pointed out his fluctuating minutes under Rick Carlisle as a kind of a hint that he’ll ultimately be the one traded. Turner’s 25 (years old) and is signed through next season, as is Caris LeVert, who’s also signed through next season. Domantas Sabonis has two more years on his deal and has already been a two-time All-Star at 25.
Multiple sources said that the Pacers are receptive in trade dialogue with rival teams centered on potentially moving guard Caris LeVert and either two-time All-Star Domantas Sabonis or center Myles Turner. All three players have frequently garnered significant interest from rival teams. Pacers officials have received frequent calls on both of their big men over the past several seasons, but new head coach Rick Carlisle wanted an opportunity to spend time with Sabonis and Turner and grow with the roster.
Darren Wolfson: I still wonder about Myles Turner. I can tell you there are Myles Turner fans here in the Wolves front office but much like Ben Simmons... Is there a logical match?
Myles Turner on trade rumors: Three years ago was the first time it really kind of got to me because I’d see it all the time, and people were saying it was a sure thing. It was like, every time I opened up my phone, I saw my name there. At one point, I was like I loved the attention. The second time, it can be overwhelming for a younger player because you think you have some comfortability in a city and you could get moved at any time, and you see situations like that across the league all the time. You’ve got to go out there and take control of your own destiny. If you get traded, so be it. Go out there and kill it. If you stay with your organization, come out and show them why they paid you. You can make it an ego thing, but this is a business at the end of the day. The organization is going to do what’s best for the organization. They’re not inclined to care about your feelings in a sense. Now that I see myself in these rumors all the time, it’s just like another day for me. It’s like, “Oh, what else is new?”
J. Michael: The #Knicks have been trying hard to get #Pacers to part with Myles Turner. So far, not happening. This and other intel entering free agency. They don’t seem in a hurry to bust up their core.
Despite anticipation that the Pacers will do something to shake things up — trading Myles Turner or Malcolm Brogdon have been the most popular topics — it's unlikely anything seismic happens, a league source tells IndyStar going into the weekend.
13 Indiana Pacers: DAVION MITCHELL. The Pacers are juggling trade talks involving Myles Turner, T.J. Warren, and this pick in separate deals. Sign-and-trade scenarios involving some of the many restricted free agents available this offseason have also been discussed, league sources say. Indiana could use a surge of shot making, whether it comes via trade or the draft. Here, the Pacers take Mitchell, who shined during the NCAA tournament and has the skills to carry over his success to the NBA.
And the Rockets have discussed a deal that would send Eric Gordon, plus Houston's No. 23 pick, to Indiana for the Pacers' 13th selection. There's an expectation that Indiana is once again gauging the trade market for Myles Turner.
The organization has spoken with the Indiana Pacers about a deal, with Myles Turner's name being in those conversations, The Ringer's Kevin O'Connor reported Friday morning. "They are having trade conversations, I have not seen reported that, I believe I had it in my story that they've had some conversations with the Pacers, the Pacers have been one of the more active teams, the name that I've heard involved in those conversations is Myles Turner," O'Connor said on the "NBA Mismatch" podcast.
J. Michael Falgoust: So if I had to guess who'd make the most aggressive move for Turner? Charlotte. Passed him up for Kaminsky in 2015. Despite a lot of "interest' from others, when the moment to deal draws closer that's when you separate teams who'd like him in theory vs putting assets on the table
Our own Grant Afseth recently wrote about how the Mavs could take advantage of the dysfunction the Indiana Pacers are currently experiencing and snag T.J. Warren, but one source has us sniffing around another Pacers possibility. According to said source, there could be interest that would unite the Mavs and Pacers’ versatile big man Myles Turner. If Dallas does ultimately decide to move on from Porzingis, trading him to Indiana for Turner might be one of the more realistic options the Mavs front office will have.
He’s just trying not to think about it. Asked about the Boston rumors, Turner told I love Indianapolis and there’s no place I’d rather be than here – it’s my second home and the fans are the best the NBA has to offer. In terms of any trade rumors, I’m really just trying to stick to basketball. I’m laser-focused on being the best I can be on the court, supporting my teammates and trying not to get wrapped up in rumors. And at the end of the day this is a business I’m fully aware of that and conduct myself as such, I’m confident in my skillset and growth that I feel I’d thrive anywhere I’m at. The grass is greener wherever I’m at.
Scott Agness: Brogdon and Turner will play tonight vs Pistons. So they’re back in the starting lineup with LeVert, JHoliday and Sabonis. Pacers won in Detroit last month by 16.
For the Indiana Pacers to even consider dealing Myles Turner by the March 25 trade deadline, there would have to be a "no-brainer" deal that blows them away, three league sources with knowledge of the situation tell IndyStar. They're not trying to unload the 6-11 center.
If there's a move to be made, league sources tell IndyStar, the Pacers aren't shopping Turner. Understand, however, the trade market can change on a dime. When they shipped Victor Oladipo to the Houston Rockets two months ago for LeVert, that kind of deal wasn't there before the season tipped.
And as is usually the case when the Celtics don’t turn a highly publicized rumor into a reality, we’re getting a reason why that deal never went through. According to ESPN’s Zach Lowe, the Celtics were never really that high on Turner. Boston apparently didn’t see him as a very big upgrade to their frontcourt, and was even exploring other deals to trade Turner had the deal with Indiana come to fruition. “Talking to people and reading the tea leaves as best I could, it really comes down to the Celtics didn’t want Myles Turner,” Lowe said on The Lowe Post Podcast. “I did hear from some teams around the league that the Celtics have done some preliminary research on what Myles Turner’s trade value would have been to them had they acquired him either in this deal or in a separate deal, and obviously didn’t like what they saw.”
Gary Washburn: #Pacers-#Celtics sign-and-trade update. Hayward wants to play in Indiana. He's told the #Celtics that. IND offering Turner and McDermott BOS wants Turner and Warren or Oladipo. That's a big difference.
Some executives around the league question whether the Pacers want to keep Myles Turner after Domantas Sabonis became an All-Star, the team drafted Goga Bitadze 18th overall in 2019, and the Pacers hired new coach Nate Bjorkgren, who’s looking to change the team’s style of play.
As noted in a recent episode of the HoopsHype podcast, Boston is looking to upgrade at center either via the draft by trying to move up to select James Wiseman or Onyeka Okongwu. Some executives around the league could see a swap of Hayward for Pacers center Myles Turner making sense as well. Another trade candidate to keep an eye on is Enes Kanter if he opts into his $5 million player option, according to HoopsHype colleague Yossi Gozlan, who is our salary cap expert.
The active phone conversations for Indiana could be a sign of what's to come this summer. Rival executives believe the Pacers will eventually break up their big man trio of All-Star Domantas Sabonis, Myles Turner and rookie Goga Bitadze. Turner is the name most rival executives believe will be traded, and the Cavaliers were among the teams who called to do due diligence on his availability before they landed Andre Drummond from Detroit, according to league sources.
The active phone conversations for Indiana could be a sign of what's to come this summer. Rival executives believe the Pacers will eventually break up their big man trio of All-Star Domantas Sabonis, Myles Turner and rookie Goga Bitadze. Turner is the name most rival executives believe will be traded, and the Cavaliers were among the teams who called to do due diligence on his availability before they landed Andre Drummond from Detroit, according to league sources.
If the current trade buzz is accurate, the general market for young frontcourt players is robust, with league executives saying both the Indiana Pacers' Myles Turner and the Atlanta Hawks' John Collins, big men with the ability to switch between power forward and center, are on the trading block.
The Pacers continue to turn away teams who inquire about Turner, sources say. They are good, and they want to see how things look when Victor Oladipo returns. But every team in need of a big man should keep an eye on Turner.
Although it was previously noted in this space that several executives expect the Indiana Pacers (22-12) to eventually break up their frontcourt of Domantas Sabonis and Myles Turner, the team itself is happy with the old-school pair of big men.
The Celtics can be a legitimate threat to win the East, the thinking goes, but will need a big, multi-faceted center who can match up both with Philadelphia’s interior behemoth Joel Embiid to do so. and Milwaukee’s perimeter-oriented Brook Lopez. Among the candidates: Indiana’s Myles Turner and San Antonio’s LaMarcus Aldridge. But the Pacers would be unlikely, sources have told, to trade Turner in the Eastern Conference, if at all.
Teams inquired with Indiana about Myles Turner both before and after the NBA Draft, sources confirmed. It's unclear if their talks with the Pacers about Turner gained any significant traction. But multiple teams that had conversations with the Pacers about Turner came away with the impression that it would take an incredibly significant offer to land him, per SNY sources.
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