The New York Knicks have acquired Derrick Rose, reuniting him with coach Tom Thibodeau for the third time, in exchange for Dennis Smith Jr. and a 2021 second-round pick (via Charlotte), according to multiple reports. HoopsHype spoke with four NBA scouts about their reaction to the trade and what it means for New York’s playoff chances and the development of rookie guard Immanuel Quickley.
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“I like it,” a scout for an Eastern Conference team told HoopsHype. “Rose is one of coach Thibs’ favorites. They have been good matches for winning. It won’t affect Quickley much because he can play both guard spots. They won’t stunt his development, and the Knicks won’t fall out of the top ten.”
Thibodeau and Rose made it to the Eastern Conference Finals together in Chicago, and during the 2017-18 season, the duo helped Minnesota reach the playoffs for the first time since 2004. “I think Quickley fits well with Rose,” another scout for an Eastern Conference team told HoopsHype. “He’s a good off-the-ball shooter, and it takes a little of the pressure off as teams build their scouting report on him.”
“It’s a double-edged sword,” a longtime NBA scout told HoopsHype. “It’s going to affect Quickley’s minutes some, but he’s a rookie that can’t get too many and has still shown production. Rose can teach him some things which those other guards couldn’t. I think it’s a good thing. Smith wasn’t going to help.”
“I don’t understand why can’t they be patient, develop, and build?” one veteran scout for a Western Conference team told HoopsHype. “I’m not in love with the move. He is a Thibs guy, so that helps in the locker room. I’m just worried he would take minutes away from developing the guys who will be there when they are ready to compete. He is an upgrade, and they want to make the playoffs.”
Stefan Bondy: Jimmy Butler on Derrick Rose to the Knicks: “Thibs getting the band back together.”
Mike Vorkunov: Tom Thibodeau throws out a blanket no comment on any Knicks trade reports. Says that’s a Leon Rose question. Rose has talked to media just once in his 11 months as Knicks president so we’ll see if that ever gets to be a question for Leon Rose.
Bobby Marks: There is no risk from the perspective of Detroit with this trade. The Pistons get a free look at Dennis Smith Jr. over the next 4 months, receive a 2nd rd. pick likely in the 40’s and also save salary.
For Detroit, the trade fulfills its desires to get younger and add more assets. Smith, the No. 9 pick in the 2017 draft, started off his NBA career on the right foot. But after averaging 15.2 points as a rookie with the Mavericks, he has since struggled to find his way in the league. He was traded to the Knicks in 2019 and had been gearing up to play for their G League affiliate in the Orlando bubble.
Smith may provide point-guard depth to the Pistons for the rest of the season while rookie point guard Killian Hayes recovers from a labrum tear in his right hip. It’s an opportunity for Smith, who is in the final year of his rookie deal and will become an unrestricted free agent if his $7.7 million qualifying offer for next season isn’t matched. The Pistons will shed close to $2 million in salary in the Smith-Rose swap.
The real jewel of the trade for the Pistons is the draft pick. Sources tell The Athletic that the Pistons will likely receive Charlotte’s second-round pick, which New York owns, and is currently slotted at No. 40.
Knicks coach Tom Thibodeau is on the verge of coaching point guard Derrick Rose a third time. The Knicks and Pistons are nearing an agreement that would send Dennis Smith Jr. and a draft pick to the Pistons for Rose, as reported by The Athletic and confirmed by The Post.
A source said the Knicks and Pistons are still talking about the trade. Knicks president Leon Rose wasn’t in his customary courtside seat by midcourt for Sunday’s game against the Heat. Sources told The Post Saturday they wouldn’t include a first-round pick in any Rose deal. The draft pick is likely one of their slew of second-round picks.
According to a source, the Knicks, one of the NBA’s worst offenses statistically, still feel they need more firepower, especially at the end of games to have more options. Thibodeau likely won’t start Rose but he could close with him if the deal goes through.
Stefan Bondy: Today when I asked Thibodeau if his reputation for being hesitant to give young players minutes was fair, guess who he brought up? “Derrick Rose is the youngest MVP in the history of the league. So I don’t worry about that stuff.”
StatMuse: Find someone who loves you as much as Tom Thibodeau loves Derrick Rose. Thibs has had D-Rose on every team he has ever coached. pic.twitter.com/3vHYYtobx1
Shams Charania: The Detroit Pistons are nearing agreement on deal to send Derrick Rose to the New York Knicks for Dennis Smith Jr. and draft compensation, sources tell me and @JLEdwardsIII .
The Knicks, among others, have interest in Rose, an NBA source familiar with the situation confirmed to The Post. According to sources, the Knicks have not had any discussions yet with the Pistons. Rose is an impending free agent and the Pistons own the worst record in the NBA at 4-13 and are tied to their lottery pick, Killian Hayes, at point guard.
The Post has learned Thibodeau pushed hard to sign Gibson recently for depth. Sources close to Thibodeau believe he would still like to reunite with Rose. While with Minnesota, Thibodeau tried to pry Rose from the Knicks before the 2017 trade deadline but backed out with hours to go. Thibodeau’s T’wolves later signed Rose as a free agent.
A couple of notes on the Knicks’ reported interest in Derrick Rose… Tom Thibodeau coached Rose in Chicago and signed him in Minnesota. So Thibodeau would probably be in favor of the Knicks’ pursuit. Prior to the 2020 NBA trade deadline, neither the Detroit Pistons nor Rose had strong interest in executing a trade that would send Rose out of Detroit. Rose was happy with the Pistons and saw Detroit as a potential long-term home, per SNY sources.
Under new GM Troy Weaver, it’s possible the Pistons take a different approach with Rose. Rose, it’s worth noting, enjoyed his time with the Knicks and hoped to re-sign with them in the 2018 offseason. The Knicks opted against re-signing him and Rose subsequently signed short-term deals with Minnesota and Detroit. Rose is set to be a free agent in the 2021 offseason. If the Knicks were to give up assets for him, it would indicate that they planned on re-signing him in the 2021 offseason. New York will have significant cap space this the coming offseason.
KC Johnson: Derrick Rose in New York: “I don’t hold any grudges with the front office or anybody in Chicago. I loved all the teammates I had there.”
Chris Herring: Derrick Rose: Decision to trade him “hurt a little bit,” but said it was out of his hands. Said he doesnt hold a grudge, & still loves his teammates
Jimmy Butler: My point guard, my brother: you taught me so much since I came into this league as a 21 year old kid from Marquette. For me, coming to Chicago to play and learn from you, an MVP, was eye-opening. You helped shape me into the player I am today. Helped teach me the work ethic needed to excel in this league. You are a leader, thru and thru. Always a supportive teammate and friend. I’ll always be thankful for the opportunity I had to play alongside you each night and I know you’re going to continue to be the great player and leader you were in Chicago for years to come.
When the news Wednesday of Rose being traded to the New York Knicks spread around the city, many of the people in his native Englewood had mixed feelings about the reality of Rose wearing another team’s uniform. “There’s no loyalty here in Chicago. He’s a hometown hero. He was the most important Chicago basketball player since Benji [Ben Wilson],” said Rahfielle Williams, the owner of Father & Son Barbershop in Englewood. “It’s bigger than basketball.”
Some of them not only know Rose as the Bulls’ point guard, but also as a man who made countless donations to the funeral services of people who died due to the city’s gun violence. Resident Jay Brown, 25, said he wasn’t happy with the trade. “How do you trade the heart of the team? I didn’t think they would do it,” Brown said.
Vincent Goodwill: Gar Forman: “I wouldn’t call it a rebuild. I would call it a retool.”
Andre Drummond: Drose on the Knicks? Thoughts everyone?
New York Knickerbockers President Phil Jackson announced today that the team has acquired three-time NBA All-Star and 2011 NBA Most Valuable Player Derrick Rose from the Chicago Bulls. As part of the deal, the Knicks have also acquired guard Justin Holiday and a 2017 second-round draft selection in exchange for guards Jose Calderon and Jerian Grant and center Robin Lopez.
“This is an exciting day for New York and our fans,” Knicks Head Coach Jeff Hornacek said. “Derrick is one of the top point guards in the NBA who is playoff-battle-tested. He adds a whole new dynamic to our roster and immediately elevates our backcourt.”
“Knowing Derrick as I do makes this trade a hard one. Everyone knows him as the local kid who became MVP for his hometown team, but not everyone got to know him like I did. While he is a terrific basketball player, he is an even better person with a tremendous heart,” said Chicago Bulls Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf. “I wish him the best of health for the remainder of his career, and I want to personally thank him for everything that he did on the court and in the community during his time with the Chicago Bulls.”
“We will always be grateful to Derrick. He was a great teammate who put winning first, and nobody fought harder through injuries and disappointment. He wowed us all when he was on the floor and at his best. His MVP season was one for the ages. We wish Derrick nothing but the best moving forward,” said Chicago Bulls General Manager Gar Forman.
“As we said at the end of last season, we are committed to exploring every option to improve this team,” said Forman. “This trade is a significant step in that process. Our goal is to get younger and more athletic, and this trade moves us in that direction and allows us to start changing the structure of our team. In Robin Lopez, we are acquiring a starting center who is a good defender, good rebounder, and brings a toughness to our team. Jose Calderon is a proven veteran who can run an offense and knock down threes. Jerian Grant was high on our draft board last year as someone with a great skill set and positional size. All three players are great teammates and have tremendous work ethic, and we are excited to welcome them to the Chicago Bulls organization.”
Adrian Wojnarowski: Knicks and Bulls are in advanced talks on a deal to send Derrick Rose to New York, sources tell @ShamsCharania and me.
Adrian Wojnarowski: Players involved in the Rose deal have been informed, sources tell @TheVertical.
The New York Knicks are looking to upgrade their backcourt, and one player on their radar is Chicago Bulls point guard Derrick Rose. The Knicks have had internal discussions recently about trading for Rose, league sources tell ESPN.
Alan Hahn: “Internal discussions” essentially means “due diligence.” He also has one year left, so it would be a rental. twitter.com/IanBegley/stat…
The Bulls’ interest in trading Rose, 27, is unknown at this point. The Knicks do not have many strong trade chips outside of Carmelo Anthony, Kristaps Porzingis and future first-round draft picks. Both Knicks coach Jeff Hornacek and GM Steve Mills have said that the Knicks are interested in upgrading their point-guard position in the offseason. The Knicks’ incumbent starting point guard is Jose Calderon, while other potential point guards include second-year guard Jerian Grant and free-agent signee Tony Wroten.
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Cleveland Cavaliers power forward Kevin Love is on this quick two-game trip with his teammates so he can continue to rehab a high-grade strained right calf, but the five-time All-Star is “unlikely” to return until after the NBA All-Star break, league sources tell cleveland.com.
Given the Cavs only have two games remaining — Monday in Houston and Wednesday at home against the Indiana Pacers — before a needed nine-day break, sources said the team doesn’t see the upside in pushing it. They want to use the extra days to get his calf better, so he can be 100 percent for the Second Half.
The Brooklyn Nets’ Kevin Durant will still serve as an NBA All-Star Game captain despite a hamstring injury that will keep him from playing. Durant and fellow All-Star Game captain LeBron James of the Los Angeles Lakers will each draft a roster out of the pool of selected All-Stars. The All-Star draft will air on TNT on March 4. It remained unclear whether Durant will travel to Atlanta for the game on March 7.
A Knicks official said Rivers was at the Garden, but in the back getting treatment for a sore ankle. Rivers was not listed on the pregame injury report submitted to the NBA. On the box score, Rivers was listed with a DNP-Coach’s Decision. Earlier this week, Rivers said of his situation: “I can’t control if I’m traded today, tomorrow or the next day. What I can control is how I am as a player.’’
His father, Mychal Thompson, believes Klay’s basketball lifespan could run until he’s 40 years old. “I said, if you really want to, you can play till you’re 40 years of age, but the key to that is you have to take care of your body, as you go into your 30s,” Mychal said, recounting to NBC Sports Bay Area a conversation he had with Klay.
That doesn’t mean he’s a finished product. There’s a reason the Raptors signed him with G League intentions and not for the NBA roster. The 10-day contract (about $82,000) affords them six games to see how he can fit and progress in their environment. It’s an audition by another name, and not the first time the Raptors have used a 10-day to get a 905 look at a prospect. “This gives us a chance to get Donta down in our system, teach him our ins and outs and the way we operate our offence, our defence, our schemes, and see how he looks running those,” general manager Chad Sanders said. “With Tampa just down the street, it’s a chance for us to get him out there and get some reps and get a chance to evaluate him for the big club.”
Callie Caplan: Luka, on ABC, asked about recent comparisons to Larry Bird’s game: “More, more games to go. A long time before you can compare me to Larry Bird. I just want to keep hooping, have fun playing basketball.”