All of this is already on display, in the opening seconds of their first training camp together. People who have seen them work out or play pick-up rave about how good Durant and Irving look, physically. The Nets are already conceding they must approach the season with caution in terms of managing the two players’ health. And there have already been, let’s not call them controversies, because neither episode really rises to the level, but two things that have happened involving Durant and Irving that could put a head coach, or a general manager, or a teammate (several teammates, if you count how many guys Sean Marks would have to trade to bring Harden to Brooklyn) in an uncomfortable position.
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Meanwhile, Durant’s co-star, Kyrie Irving, underwent season-ending shoulder surgery on March 3, and indications are that he has no plans to play for the Nets until next season. Irving has been doing basketball-related workouts as part of his rehabilitation process, sources told ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski.
On a National Basketball Players Association call on Friday, Irving, a union vice president, inquired about whether inactive players could support their teams and attend playoff games — and whether a player doing so would count as one of the 35 people expected to be allowed in each team’s traveling party, sources said.
Spencer Dinwiddie understands that expectations are raised to championship if Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving return for the Orlando playoffs. But the Nets guard is unsure what his star teammates will decide. “That’s the billion dollar question. But that’s not something I can answer,” Dinwiddie said Wednesday morning on ESPN’s “First Take.” “I know they’re both working really hard. They’re two of the hardest working in the NBA on the court, and two phenomenal players. If they are able to return and that’s the decision they make, our aspirations turn from playoffs to championship. “If they’re not able to return, which they’ve pretty much said that’s kind of the stance that they’re taking, we still want to be a team that grinds to get to the playoffs and makes a run in the playoffs. But we also understand the talent they add with being two of the top-10 players in the league and KD being, in my opinion, the greatest scorer of all time.”
Anthony Puccio: Looks like Kyrie Irving is back in the gym. It’s been 11 weeks since he had shoulder surgery. pic.twitter.com/2j0aDo6mYU
Alex Schiffer: Kenny Atkinson doesn’t want to speculate on Kevin Durant or Kyrie Irving playing in the Olympics. Said those are conversations for down the line.
Durant hasn’t been traveling with the Nets on road games, and neither has Irving since getting hurt on a West Coast road trip in November. Kenny Atkinson — who insists there’s no danger of detachment from the team — said that’s not going to change as long as their rehab is better served at home. But he said that could change eventually. “No, we’re around them enough. I always hark back to the priority’s got to be what’s best for them from a rehab standpoint. That overrides everything,” Atkinson said. “And sometimes they want to come, and we’re like ‘No, you need to be on the AlterG at home.’
“We just can’t provide the same type of rehab conditions on the road, and that’s priority number one. I think we’ll continue to do that. But I think in the future you’ll see that change as the rehab processes get further down the road.”
Alex Schiffer: Kenny Atkinson does not expect Wilson Chandler’s personal issue to be long-term. Expects him back quickly. Adds that there is no surgery date yet for Kyrie Irving. Likely to see Rodions Kurucs tonight with no Chandler.
Alex Schiffer: Sean Marks confirms that Kyrie Irving is out for the season and will have arthroscopic surgery.
Bobby Marks: Kyrie Irving had 8 sets of unlikely bonuses in his contract for $125K each. He earned 1 for shooting > 88.5% from the FT line. His cap hit for the 2020/21 season will be adjusted at the end of the season to $33,460,350.
Brooklyn Nets star Kyrie Irving is considering treatment options on his right shoulder impingement — including the possibility of surgery, league sources told ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski and Malika Andrews. He’s expected to reach a decision in the next few days, per sources.
Shams Charania: Nets star Kyrie Irving is likely to undergo procedure on his right shoulder and miss extended period of time, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
Malika Andrews: Kenny Atkinson said he “wouldn’t go there” when asked if there’s a concern Irving will miss the rest of the season. Right now, the plan is that he will see a specialist and go from there. Atkinson said the shoulder has been continuously bothering Irving.
Kyrie Irving continues to struggle with the shoulder injury that caused him to miss 26 games earlier this season and is scheduled to see another specialist this week, Nets coach Kenny Atkinson said. “That’s about all I can tell you,” Atkinson said. “His shoulder continues to bother him. That’s about the extent of it now.”
Atkinson said Irving will be unavailable for Brooklyn’s first game after the All-Star Break against the 76ers on Thursday. Irving was not at practice on Tuesday night. Atkinson said he will have a clearer timetable for Irving after he sees the specialist.
Atkinson said Tuesday that it was not a specific play or practice that caused Irving to be in pain again, but rather something he’s been dealing with continuously. “The shoulder is a tough thing,” Atkinson said. “I just think it was an on and off thing where it’s bothering you. Some days you feel good, some days you don’t feel good. But I think it got to the point it was, ‘Hey let’s see another specialist.'”
Alex Schiffer: Atkinson says it’s a different shoulder specialist than the one he saw in Phoenix. Irving missed 26 games with a right shoulder impingement. Atkinson says the shoulder is his issue and not the knee sprain he suffered Feb. 1 in Washington.
Malika Andrews: Kyrie Irving, who was not at practice today, has re-aggravated the right shoulder that caused him to miss 26 games earlier this season, Kenny Atkinson said. He is going to see a specialist this week.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if you see more small lineups. It’s just the trend now,” Harris told The Post. “Even now I’m setting screens in big actions. I never would’ve thought I’d be a screener either, but that’s just like how it is. I’m like picking and popping all the time.” Irving has sat the past five games with a knee sprain. After a week off for the All-Star break, the Nets resume play Thursday in Philadelphia. While Irving’s status for Thursday is up in the air, he is expected back eventually. And the aforementioned quintet has produced the best Net (plus-16.7) and Offensive (133.3) Ratings of any Irving-led lineups that have logged 15 minutes.
Alex Schiffer: Kenny Atkinson doesn’t say whether or not Kyrie Irving will return after the All-Star break. Wants to see how he looks when the team returns to practice next week.
Anthony Puccio: It’s been 9 days since the Nets said Kyrie Irving would be re-evaluated in “one week.” Kenny Atkinson said last night that he’s been evaluated everyday, and that there’s no update. Doubtful he suits up on Wednesday with the All-Star break coming up.
Greg Logan: #Nets say Durant and Irving are out at Indy. Also Musa and Pinson, who have G League assignment. So everyone who played in TO is available.
Brian Lewis: As expected, #Nets are leaving Kyrie Irving home for this two game trip. They said last Sunday he’d be re-evaluated in a week, buy with a road game Monday in Indiana, facing the #Pacers always seemed unlikely at best.
Christopher Lavinio: Kyrie Irving speaks out after a scary fall Saturday vs. Wizards. Irving was diagnosed with a right knee sprained and will be re-evaluated in one week.
Brooklyn Nets star guard Kyrie Irving said he would undergo an MRI after spraining his right knee. Irving left Saturday night’s 113-107 road loss to Washington in the fourth quarter, after getting tangled with the Wizards’ Bradley Beal and falling back awkwardly on the knee. “What a week,” Irving said. “I’m OK, though. Just gotta get an MRI. X-rays were negative, just [have to] go home and see what’s going on.”
Irving has a history of right knee injuries. He strained his right knee in February 2019 when he was with the Boston Celtics. “I’ve done some pretty decent things to my knees in the past,” Irving said. “The most important thing is just making sure my ACL was fine. It was just a weird, weird, weird fall. I just felt a lot stretching and tension afterward. Just a bad fall.”
Malika Andrews: The Nets announce that Kyrie Irving is available to play tonight for the first time since Nov. 14. Wilson Chandler (left hamstring tightness) and Garrett Temple (right knee contusion), who both missed the Nets game against the Heat on Friday are also available to play.
Adrian Wojnarowski: Kyrie Irving is likely to make his return to the Nets lineup on Sunday against Atlanta, league sources tell ESPN.
Adrian Wojnarowski: Irving has been out since mid-November with a right shoulder injury. He recently returned to 5-on-5 workouts in practice and is preparing for his return Sunday in Brooklyn.
Malika Andrews: Kenny Atkinson said that Kyrie Irving’s shoulder responded well to playing 5-on-5 for the first time yesterday. Historically, a concern for the Nets in bringing back injured players is how they respond to an increased workload. Irving will go through 5-on-5 again on Saturday.
Brian Lewis: Atkinson on Kyrie Irving: “I’m pleased with how we’re progressing.” Says he’ll work out to tomorrow and be evaluated after that. #nets
After missing nearly two months with a right shoulder injury, Irving said he expects to be reevaluated within the next week. It is hoped that being cleared to play, Irving said, will be the next step. “We just see where we end up in the next few days,” Irving said Thursday. “Realistically, we will reevaluate tomorrow. See how I feel tomorrow. Then go Saturday — probably another practice.”
Irving did not pinpoint a date for his return, but said that he’s assigned a self-imposed deadline of one week. “Hopefully I get some game reps in addition to practice probably in the next week or so,” he said. “It could be less than that, but I’ll give myself a week.”
Malika Andrews: Kyrie Irving will not play tonight against the Thunder, the Nets announce. Irving has now missed 25 games. That is the longest stretch he has been out in his career.
Marc Stein: Kyrie Irving, speaking to the media for the first time in two months, tells reporters in Brooklyn that he has opted for a cortisone shot in his ailing shoulder in hopes it will allow him to avoid surgery
Brian Lewis: Irving got the shot Dec. 24. He and the #Nets will assess after two months and will hope he can avoid arthroscopic surgery. But that’s certainly possible. He admits he considered it, but it’d take him out 3-4 months.
Alex Schiffer: Irving said surgery “has definitely crossed my mind,” especially with Durant out this season. Said he thought about the present and trying to play with team and worry about next year when it comes. He will continue to rehab and see where it goes.
Malika Andrews: Kyrie Irving, talking to reporters for the first time since Nov. 14, said he is “doing a lot better.” He said he is struggling to lift his shoulder when taking jump shots.
Brian Lewis: Irving: “There was some bursitis in there that was impacting me.” Says it started vs. Pelicans. #Nets
Alex Schiffer: Irving said he’s been doing cortisone shots to avoid surgery. Didn’t take anti-inflammatories. Said he overworked his shoulder trying to come back from facial injury he suffered in preseason. Shot daily. Played through it and it got to a point where he couldn’t shoot pain-free.
Brian Lewis: Kyrie Irving; “It just sucks man. It really is disheartening.” Went to Phoenix to see a shoulder specialist. #Nets
Bobby Marks: Kyrie Irving will now miss out on two bonuses of $125K each for falling short of playing 60 games this season. The games played bonus were tied into statistical achievements. This will bring the total up to $375K in lost incentives for the season.
Irving is actually suffering from “thoracic bursitis” and he’s out until at least Jan. 7 against the Thunder, according to Heavy.com. But Aktinson pushed back before Brooklyn hosted the Knicks on Thursday. “What you’re telling me — whatever that report said is not true,” the coach said. “We’re still in the same place the last time I talked. Like I said, the thing is we haven’t gotten to the contact with him. We’re on-court workout situation but the contact just hasn’t been cleared yet. I think that’s the next hurdle. I wish I could tell you when that is. Hopefully sooner rather than later.”
Nets Daily: Kenny Atkinson today on @Kyrie Irving “He worked on-court today. I watched the workout, it was pretty intense. We just haven’t integrated him into contact yet.” From @Brian Lewis
Greg Logan: #Nets coach Kenny Atkinson said recent story describing Kyrie Irving shoulder injury as “thoracic bursitis” is “not true.” Admitted Irving hasn’t had contact yet. Also said Irving recovery has gone longer than expected but “shoulders are tricky.”
On Monday evening during Irving’s ‘Nike Kyrie Irving Invitational Tournament’ at Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York, a source within the Nets organization stated that Irving could be out two to three more weeks with what they are privately calling thoracic bursitis. Thoracic bursitis impacts a bursa, which can be found throughout the body where muscles and tendons glide over bones, as Physio Works detailed. A further breakdown of this type of injury comes via Beacon Northo which describes Scapulothoracic Bursitis – inflammation in the bursa under the shoulder blade.
“We’re getting second and third opinions before doing anything,” the source stated on Monday. Irving is “taking his time and trying to get it right” and it was made known that “health is the most important thing,” understandably.
Nets Daily: So if, as @ScoopB reports, the new diagnosis for @Kyrie Irving is thoracic bursitis, it’s a rare condition. A physiotherapist we spoke with says it’s caused by trauma, overuse of both. The only cure is rest and plenty of it. There’s no surgical solution.
There was still no update on Irving, who missed his 18th straight game with a shoulder injury and seemingly missed the latest timetable set for him. Sunday marked two weeks since coach Kenny Atkinson said the Nets planned on “starting to integrate him in the next week or two into team practices.” But Irving has still not been cleared for contact. “That’s kind of the next step,” Atkinson said. “So we’re just not there yet.”
Malika Andrews: Kenny Atkinson said that Kyrie Irving has still yet to be cleared for contact practices. Two weeks ago, Atkinson said the expectation was Irving would be cleared for contact in the next one to two weeks. That timetable did not come to fruition.
“There is a very small space at the top of the shoulder where several structures intersect,” ESPN injury analyst Stephania Bell said. “If there is inflammation or tissue damage to any of the structures in the area … the pinching, or impingement, that results when the arm goes through elevation can cause pain. “For a basketball player who has this in his dominant arm, the most obvious limitation would occur anytime he elevates his arm to shoot the ball, but it can be equally problematic when trying to play defense or anytime there is even incidental direct contact.” According to Bell, there are likely several matters that need to be addressed by the Nets before Irving could make a return to the court: eliminating inflammation, restoring normal, pain-free motion and making sure the muscles are stabilized. “These things can be addressed simultaneously,” Bell said. “The trick is to balance the strengthening and returning to activity with proper loading to not trigger a renewed inflammatory response. “While this may sound easy, there is no simple formula.”
Malika Andrews: Kyrie Irving is out for the Nets game against the Sixers tonight, according to the injury report. This marks this 15th consecutive game Irving has missed.
Irving did on-court work during practice Friday, but is still not cleared for contact. “No timetable on when that’s going to happen,” Atkinson said. “I will say the on-court, non-contact stuff has been ramped up.”
“I think the timeline for his recovery is somewhat up to him, but also up to his body and how that progresses. It could happen quickly or it could take some time,” Nets general manager Sean Marks told Yahoo Sports before Wednesday’s 113-108 loss to the Charlotte Hornets in which Brooklyn blew a 20-point lead. “And where we are at this stage of the season — and where we are as a team over the next couple years — there’s no point in forcing guys to come back too soon. Especially a player of his caliber and expectations.”
“I think everybody’s entitled to their opinion,” Marks told Yahoo Sports. “All I’m going to say is I’m never going to judge a guy on another team until I get to know that person. And I think it’s pretty clear that Kyrie’s not missing a game in Boston and going to sit out two weeks just to avoid one game. He’s legitimately hurt. “I think we’ve seen how competitive Kyrie is when he was healthy at the beginning of the season. And I give him credit for wanting to be back out there at 100 percent. So let’s judge this book when we get through a few chapters here — not the first 5-10 games of the season.”
Ian Begley: Kyrie Irving did on-court work today with the Nets, head coach Kenny Atkinson said. There’s no definitive timetable for Irving’s return but Atkinson said the PG has made consistent progress/there have been no setbacks from shoulder injury.
Brian Lewis: Atkinson on Kyrie: “The plan is to continue to ramp up his individual oncourt work & from there it’s starting to integrate him in the next week or 2 into team practices. Like I always say that could be a planned practice or us making one up if the game schedule so dictates” #Nets
Malika Andrews: Kenny Atkinson said Kyrie Irving will be integrated into team practices “in the next week or two.”
The Nets have been about as transparent as a brick wall when it comes to Kyrie Irving’s shoulder injury. But the star’s absence is approaching three weeks, and multiple sources told The Post he could need a few more — if he’s lucky.
Two specialists told The Post that Irving is likely to be out a few more weeks. One medical source not affiliated with the team intimated there’s more under the surface and that this injury could be even more long term. “That’s a very, very broad term,” said Dr. Andrew S. Rokito, chief of shoulder surgery at NYU Langone Orthopedic Hospital. “Impingement typically does not refer to an acute injury. [It] refers to more of a long-standing, chronic issue with the rotator cuff.
Malika Andrews: Kenny Atkinson has ruled Kyrie Irving out for the next two games. He will not travel with the team (to Atlanta and Charlotte). Irving has yet to do any contact work.
Malika Andrews: Kyrie Irving (shoulder impingement) still isn’t doing any contact work on the court, Kenny Atkinson says. Irving has started to do some on-court exercises.
Irving will miss his ninth straight game Sunday against the Heat. He continued on-court work for the second straight day, but his return date remains uncertain.
Tim Bontemps: Kenny Atkinson says Kyrie Irving will be evaluated by the Nets this morning before they play the Celtics, and he hopes to have more of an update on Irving’s status postgame. Irving has, including today, been out for eight games with a right shoulder impingement.
Tim Bontemps: Kenny Atkinson is asked about Kyrie Irving potentially coming back for Friday’s game against the Celtics in Brooklyn, but says he doesn’t have an update on his status, nor a timetable for his return.
Stefan Bondy: Kyrie Irving will be at the Garden tonight. He won’t travel to Cleveland and Kenny Atkinson wouldn’t commit to whether he’ll travel to Boston.
Kyrie Irving will not play in the Brooklyn Nets’ first matchup against his former team, the Boston Celtics, the team announced Friday night. Irving will miss the Nets’ next three games, which include road matchups against the Knicks, the Cleveland Cavaliers and, finally, the Celtics on Wednesday. Irving has already missed Brooklyn’s past four games with a right shoulder impingement, which he suffered against the Utah Jazz on Nov. 12. Coach Kenny Atkinson said Irving “gutted out” the Nets’ game against the Nuggets two days later but was in pain.
Bobby Marks: As part of his contract signed this summer, Kyrie Irving has a $125K bonus for playing in 70+ games. That bonus is now in jeopardy with Irving scheduled to miss the next 3 games (NYK, CLE and BOS).
When asked whether Irving’s return is a matter of pain tolerance or range of motion, Atkinson said both. “He’s got to get to the point where he feels like — and we feel like — he can play. We’re just not at that point right now,” Atkinson said. “I think it’s pain tolerance. I think it’s range of motion. I think those are both fair assessments.”
Michael Scotto: Kenny Atkinson on Kyrie Irving’s injury: I don’t think it’s a long-term thing. I wouldn’t say we’re being overcautious… Do I think it’s a long-term thing? No. I don’t think he can play through it right now quite honestly. That’s where we are. We’ll see where that goes.
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Marc J. Spears: Knicks say Frank Ntilikina (sprained right knee) and Austin Rivers (sore right Achilles) are available for tonight’s game at Portland. Reggie Bullock (sore neck) is out.
Ian Begley: Asked about plans for Frank Ntilikina, Tom Thibodeau says his role will be ‘situational’ initially. Thibodeau says Ntilikina’s conditioning isn’t all the way there yet, which is what you’d expect following his long layoff.
Jason Jones: “The opportunity to play in those (4th quarter) minutes are earned and he’s gaining some of that trust by doing the little things better.” Luke Walton on Marvin Bagley III’s increased time in the fourth. Little things like taking charges, rebounding taking open 3 (for spacing)
Jason Jones: It’s just a nagging thing that keeps popping up from em falling in one of the earlier games in the season. I’ll be fine, man.” Bagley on his sore wrist, that he said bothered him for the last 7 or 8 games.